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| | | (...) I think that is irrelevant here so I will not agree or disagree. (...) That's all fine, given that the ToU says "reason X will result in a timeout of 48 hours". However, I doubt the ToU will ever cover every possible reason for timeout, and a (...) (19 years ago, 22-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.suggestions)
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| | | | | Re: LUGNET members association —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | (...) Why not? It was my point, that without someone saying "We've listened, we've considered it carefully, we worked our process and we worked our review process, and we don't at this time see a need to change this particular reviewing action, and (...) (19 years ago, 23-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.suggestions)
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| | | | | | | Re: LUGNET members association —David Eaton
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| | | | | | (...) Is that really a problem? I agree at some point *you* may wish to stop arguing, but why ask everyone else to? I think the problem with saying "The decision stands, we don't see the point of people discussing further" (or in fact ANY way of (...) (19 years ago, 25-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.suggestions)
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| | | | | Re: LUGNET members association —Leonard Hoffman
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| | | | (...) Yeah, I don't believe this. The LPRV is a great example. The Admins gathered a group of people and said, we trust you guys! We want to know what you think! And then, seemingly out of nowhere, they started accusing the Admins of creating a (...) (19 years ago, 25-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: LUGNET members association —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | (...) Well, as long as it was Scott, it was easy enough to disregard. It was just Scott, after all, noted button pusher. But when we get this mistrust from people we used to respect before they wigged out, or people we still do want to respect for (...) (19 years ago, 25-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: LUGNET members association —Kevin L. Clague
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| | | | | | | (...) Is saying someone wigged out a personal attack? Is it beaving to a different standard? DOesn't sound like you are unpholdin' to you own rules. You commiteed to do better. Kevin (19 years ago, 25-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: LUGNET members association —Leonard Hoffman
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Sounds like the double standard again. I was called to town for asking users to respect Admins, and everyone said there is no way to police whether people respect us or not. And now you're trying to call Larry out because he doesn't respect (...) (19 years ago, 25-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: LUGNET members association —Rob Hendrix
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| | | | | | | | | | Could you guys please start a new thread with all this feces? It seems this thread has fallen victim to name-calling and the other normal antics... Back on topic. Evey decently large community has a members' association. I bet a few of you who live (...) (19 years ago, 25-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.suggestions)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: LUGNET members association —Kevin L. Clague
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| | | | | | | | (...) Well, Lenny, Larry and I have had some conversations, especially when the LPRV was first formed, and he acknowledged that he felt that Admins should be held to a higher standard hat on, or hat off. So Larry beleives there should be a double (...) (19 years ago, 25-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: LUGNET members association —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | (...) Thanks. For everything you said. "I can think of a hundred things I'd rather do than debate this stuff." Ya, me too! I'll see your 100 and raise you a hundred. Emotions have run high here, but your recent actions convince me I was wrong to (...) (19 years ago, 25-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: LUGNET members association —Kevin L. Clague
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| | | | | | | | | (...) <snip> (...) <snip> (...) Larry, always the competitive one :P Levity is a good thing. and by the way, you're welcome. (...) I'm very pleased to hear this Larry, with this we can work to go forward. I look forward to it. If the LTT and LPRV (...) (19 years ago, 25-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: LUGNET members association —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) I'm happy to report that you should be back on the committee as soon as the email is reconfigured (from the LTT perspective). (which should be about 2 min after Matt reads his mail) I didn't even think to ask the rest of the LPRV how they felt (...) (19 years ago, 25-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: LUGNET members association —Rob Hendrix
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| | | | | | | | <SNIPPAGE> (...) ... (...) </SNIPPAGE> If you guys aren't going to stop hijacking my thread, I might as well join in on the claim-jumping too... I'd officially like to make this a red letter date. A day to remember. A day for the history book (...) (19 years ago, 25-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: LUGNET members association —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | (...) You are SO out of it, I admit I'm wrong all the time. It's just that... (wait for it) I never make misteaks! ++Lar (19 years ago, 25-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Lar++ is WRONG! (was: Re: LUGNET members association) —Rob Hendrix
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| | | | | | | | "Larry Pieniazek" <larry.(mylastname)@...e.DOT.com> wrote in message news:IFIpFp.1zt2@lugnet.com... (...) I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken... Please FUT to o-t.fun - I can't from NNTP Rob (19 years ago, 25-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Lar++ is WRONG! (was: Re: LUGNET members association) —Ross Crawford
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Well, if you can't, it isn't a limitation of NNTP - but possibly of your newsreader. NNTP protocol has had the ability to set followups from pretty early on. On the other hand, I don't know if there's any facility to set followups for those (...) (19 years ago, 25-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Lar++ is WRONG! (was: Re: LUGNET members association) —Dan Boger
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Setting the reply-to header does that. (19 years ago, 26-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Setting follow-up (was something else) —Anders Isaksson
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| | | | | | | | (...) In fact you can. With Outlook Express You just select "View" --> "Show all headers" when you're composing the message. And there it is: "Followup to", just enter the appropriate group. (All menu items translated from Swedish, so the actual (...) (19 years ago, 26-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | my “button pushing” opinion! ;) —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | | (...) Larry, No. I'd start to worry when (arguably justified) personal attacks on a LUGNET admin are (URL) spotlighted> on LUGNET's homepage. For that to happen once is very unfortunate. For it to happen repeatedly… I'd be further concerned when (...) (19 years ago, 25-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: my “button pushing” opinion! ;) —Leonard Hoffman
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| | | | | | | (...) Yeah, a lot of people. But MOST people think that Larry is suitable to be an admin. And most importantly, Todd thinks Larry is an excellent choice to be an admin - as it is Todd's choice to empower an Admin or not. -Lenny (19 years ago, 25-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: my “button pushing” opinion! ;) —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | | | | (...) ...and I thought he only got 45% of the vote. ;) (...) I’m beginning to feel that he is being bloody-minded on this issue. Scott A (19 years ago, 25-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: my “button pushing” opinion! ;) —Kevin L. Clague
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| | | | | | (...) My miscounting was wrong, and I was wrong to say Larry did any abusive emailing. I respectfully request that (URL) post be cancelled, so that Larry no longer has to defend himself against false charges. (...) Not in my opinion. Kevin (19 years ago, 25-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
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| | | | | | Trust: was Re: LUGNET members association —Kevin L. Clague
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| | | | | (...) You told us you wanted us to wordsmith it and fix syntax and gramatical errors. When I first started proposing ideas that were not in the document, a member of LTT started arguing with me. In an attempt to look at each case, I applied *my* (...) (19 years ago, 25-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: LUGNET members association —Ross Crawford
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| | | | (...) Lenny, I never said all the people would believe such assurances all the time. But I still think it's worth providing them. ROSCO (19 years ago, 25-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
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