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(...) Do we even know that the library took offense? I've read nothing here at LUGNET from the Library that found Larry's post offensive. Furthermore, reading Larry's post from any outsider point of view, how could one take serious offense to (...) (20 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) Yes it is, for I didn't see a violation and, again my interpretation, you mis-applying the TOS does not make it right, so it is up for a debate. But again, that's just my stance. Further, in my opinion, you seem to be very selective as to what (...) (20 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) As I have said the whole thread would not have occurred had he been man enough to apologize to NILTC and the library. He did apologize to me but then went forward with all this obfuscation and justification. His apologies are apparently (...) (20 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Funny I've found quite a few "reasonable" people who found it offensive. Some of whom have posted it this thread. (...) It doesn't really matter what your view is because the TOU is very clear. Personal information will not be divulged with (...) (20 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Well since you "called" I came, and by no means do I claim to be a conflict resolutions manager nor a therapist (I just play one on Lugnet). I want to resist commenting directly on particulars because I truly do not want to add fuel to a (...) (20 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Refresh my memory on what a mundane is? (...) Well, I *think* that Ken read that meaning in what you wrote. The reason I think this is because he quoted that passage back to you on another node in this thread, and it's also what first came to (...) (20 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) No, he was talking about past postings to off-topic.debate, near as I can tell, so I don't think so. (...) I think so, yes. Not at all justified, but yes. (...) Certainly. It's written all over it, in the word choices used. (...) No. (...) (...) (20 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Can we talk a little bit more about the messing it up issue? Do you think Larry was attacking you personally or NILTC as a whole by replying to the NILTC invitation? He has said since that his intention was not to attack you or anyone, but (...) (20 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I think Ken means that your correcting the word "Legos" was being picky. (...) I'm not precisely sure, but I think Ken felt that the pickiness slighted the NILTC announcement. (...) Do you mean that you think Ken bears you animosity now? Ken, (...) (20 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Again the facts have been posted multible times It's a waste of time to repost them. (...) Apparently there is nothing that can help. The facts have been laid out several times. All you want to do is obfuscate the facts and parse the words. (...) (20 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Do me a favour and explain it again for me, because I have read the previous postings, and I didn't see what the specific consequences of this asserted privacy violation were. We're going really slowly here to make sure that there is no (...) (20 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) If you missed them go back and re-read the previous postings. (...) It's pathetic that you can carry on with this and feel you have any credibility as a Lugnet administrator. -Ken (20 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) The attacking part came with the messing it up part it's an other issue. (...) What happend within a smaller group is not an invitation to take it public. (...) No I feel fired. Ken (20 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I'm not sure it's a given. What consequences do you feel are directly attributable to my actions? Please be specific by giving the specific action I took, and the consequence that directly followed? (...) I'm not sure you've demonstrated that. (20 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) That wasn't for you to decide. (...) “I can't imagine him messing up this spectactularly." (...) Up untill you felt the need to screw with a public invitation and further can't take responsibility for your actions I felt no animosity. (...) (...) (20 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) That is true. (...) I don't think that it explicitly says the opposite, but regardless, you have a point. On the other hand, if Larry divulged personal information about you without knowing that it was private, do you think it is accurate to (...) (20 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Assuming the information is "personal" rather than "common knowledge". (...) I'm not sure what Ken means here, some elaboration might be helpful. What is it that I've been picky about, exactly? And how does my being "picky" correlate to the (...) (20 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) There is no clause that say’s it’s ok to divulge personal information if you didn’t know the person did not want it divulged. In fact it say’s exactly the opposite. If you don’t specifically have permission it is wrong. Friends could perhaps (...) (20 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Ok, I'm looking at the ToU agreement: (URL) do you mean that his divulging of your association with LEGO without your permission violated point #6 of the Discussion Group Terms and Conditions? That is to say, do you feel your privacy was (...) (20 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) No, but divulging personal info without permission is obviously a violation of TOU (...) Hurtful no, but an obvious attack especilly when he himself has been so picky within debate forums where there should be more latitude for this type of (...) (20 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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