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    First draft of the Lego-Modular Train layout standards posted.. —Mike Poindexter
   The preliminary page for Lego-modular standards is up at: (URL) the near future, I plan to post pictures detailing how the lattice structure is made from 2x4 bricks as well as the optional 2x6 style. Over time, I will document all stages of module (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org)  
   
        Re: First draft of the Lego-Modular Train layout standards posted.. —Paul Foster
     (...) So a module is defined as 144 x 96 studs according to your page which is a 2x3 grid of 48x48 stud baseplates, cool. The only problem I saw with the page is that you are using the terms 'wide' and 'deep' to discuss size but haven't really (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org)  
    
         Re: First draft of the Lego-Modular Train layout standards posted.. —Mike Poindexter
     (...) 2 baseplates. The older modules from the GMLTC that most people are familiar with will soon be no more. They have opted for new modules that are 60" wide and 40" deep and will be running all 8-wide rolling stock. The size they chose was (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org)  
   
        Re: First draft of the Lego-Modular Train layout standards posted.. —Frank Filz
     (...) of it's trademarks. We probably should either get permission to name the standard LEGO-Modular, or find a different name (but maybe I'm all wet). (24 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org)
    
         Re: First draft of the Lego-Modular Train layout standards posted.. —Mike Poindexter
     If they come to me and tell me that I can't call my Lego train layout that has about a half-million of their bricks in it and costs tens of thousands of dollars a Lego-modular layout, I will retort that they would prefer it to a Megablock-modular (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org)
    
         Re: First draft of the Lego-Modular Train layout standards posted.. —Frank Filz
     (...) I'm certainly not up on all the intricacies of trademark law, but I would think that there is a difference between what you use to describe your layout, and the name applied to a published standard. I'm just suggesting that this issue be (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org)
    
         Re: First draft of the Lego-Modular Train layout standards posted.. —Mike Poindexter
     I think that Lego is getting pretty ridiculous on their protection. Lego-modular describes exactly what it is. What else should it be called? Modular train tables using ABS automatic binding bricks? That opens the door for people to use rivtek and (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org)
    
         Re: First draft of the Lego-Modular Train layout standards posted.. —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) When I coined Legomodular I left the hyphen and capitalization out on purpose. Not really sure why except it seemed more suitable. Putting the hyphen back in emphasizes use of LEGO as an adjective. If there is a problem with it though, you (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org)
    
         Re: First draft of the Lego-Modular Train layout standards posted.. —Mike Poindexter
     Well, it is easier to ask for forgiveness than permission. I think that legomodular could be claimed as deprecating a brand more than LEGO(tm)-Modular could. Either way, it would seem very silly to have their legal department crack down on a couple (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org)
    
         Re: First draft of the Lego-Modular Train layout standards posted.. —John Gerlach
     (...) I don't know who buys the most LEGO, or who has the most LEGO - but I think we can safely say that there are some pretty huge collections being represented on LUGNET and especially here in .TRAINS! If LEGO (the company) doesn't realize how (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org)
   
        Re: First draft of the Lego-Modular Train layout standards posted.. —Stephen F. Roberts
     (...) discussion thru threads before now :-/. But I can say I support the idea and am figuring out now how to make our layout compatible with the modular one. ...We are using table top layouts based loosely on the PNLTC standard. An observation I (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org)
    
         Re: First draft of the Lego-Modular Train layout standards posted.. —John Gerlach
     (...) There are two 'standard' heights: 29 3/4" table + baseplate + 10 bricks + 1 plate 29 3/4" table + baseplate + 22 bricks + 1 plate (extra plate is used to represent 'ballast' under the tracks) The higher one should be close to PNLTC / WAMALUG (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org)
    
         Re: First draft of the Lego-Modular Train layout standards posted.. —Mike Poindexter
      And the BayLTC layout will be using the upper height exclusively, as our layout will include the optional low track at 4 bricks+1 plate. JIG: Where the heck did you guys get THAT MANY small black and gray plates? I can't imagine how I am going to (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org)
     
          Re: First draft of the Lego-Modular Train layout standards posted.. —John Kelly
      (...) The last layer where we would normally brick over the top instead gets a layer of whatever plates are available. Then we use black and grey bricks to get the rest of the height. -John (24 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org)
     
          Re: First draft of the Lego-Modular Train layout standards posted.. —John Gerlach
      (...) So to get our 20 bricks + a plate we have: Baseplate + 19 bricks + 1 plate (usually something big like 6x8) + 1 brick... Yea, it's cheating, but it works! ;-) JohnG, GMLTC (24 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org)
    
         Re: First draft of the Lego-Modular Train layout standards posted.. —Stephen F. Roberts
      (...) ...Yea, its closer, but overshoots some :-/ (sunken rail beds? :-) ...Its only a nuisance because its close to 2" for either version, and as we all know, LEGO trains do _not_ like going up or down slopes much :-/ (...) ...That's about all I'm (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org)
    
         Re: First draft of the Lego-Modular Train layout standards posted.. —Stephen F. Roberts
     (...) ...Well, since most of the terrain is red bricks, it could also be shielding from the rolling rivers of lava... :-) ...you can go back to ignoring me now... wubwub stephen f roberts wamalug guy ((URL) #160 (24 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org)
   
        Re: First draft of the Lego-Modular Train layout standards posted.. —Robert Green
   Is there going to be a standard size car/rolling stock standard? i.e.,clearance on all tracks for something 8x44x14 (or whatever) I would think that this would be just as important as standard track interfaces and such, as this is going to be the (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org)
   
        Re: First draft of the Lego-Modular Train layout standards posted.. —Larry Pieniazek
   (...) 8x44 but I am not sure about the height. John Kelly? Note that 8x44 allows 7xM and 6xN (where N>M>44) due to curve effects, although I am not quite sure what the values of M and N are. That's why I personally am pleased to see layouts (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org)
   
        Re: First draft of the Lego-Modular Train layout standards posted.. —John Kelly
   I'm not sure that we've really set a hard top yet. By guess is that 14 will be probably the high end, mostly because the tunnels start to look really silly if they need to let through cars that are taller than that. A lot of that will depend on how (...) (24 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org)
   
        Re: First draft of the Lego-Modular Train layout standards posted.. —Mike Poindexter
   I knew that there was something I forgot to include! I think 16 was what we mentioned for tunnel clearances. I LOVED Brian Williams' suggestion of having the entrance to the tunnel removable so that a smaller or larger "mouth" could be added to look (...) (24 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org)
   
        Re: First draft of the Lego-Modular Train layout standards posted.. —Larry Pieniazek
   (...) Good point. Perhaps instead of setting a length standard (although that is useful when calculating siding capacity) the standard should speak to the envelope of clearance that must be provided. (there must be 4 studs clearance from the edge of (...) (24 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org)  
   
        Re: First draft of the Lego-Modular Train layout standards posted.. —Frank Filz
   (...) Hmm, interesting, can one come up with a single car? One thing I immediately wondered is if the clearance specs define a maximum distance between wheelsets (actually between truck pin) and a maximum extension beyond this point, would you get (...) (24 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org)  
   
        Re: First draft of the Lego-Modular Train layout standards posted.. —Tom Stangl
   (...) Sure - since the specs are being set, a ClearanceCar can be defined. Anyone building a layout that doesn't allow it to clear gets a wedgie ;-) All you need are LWH, and pivot point distances from the ends for the center of the trucks, and each (...) (24 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org)  
 

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