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Re: New Train Sets #10013 and #10014
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lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct
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Sun, 24 Jun 2001 22:03:50 GMT
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JOHNNEAL@USWEST.nospamNET
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Christopher Masi wrote:
> The set I like the most out of these new ones is the caboose
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> http://shop.lego.com/images/products/TYPE10/set384x288us010013.jpg
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> eh, it is OK. The ends are on backwards (in my mind the tall support things
> should slope inwards and be square on the inside edge).
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> http://shop.lego.com/images/products/TYPE10/set384x288us010014.jpg
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> This one is very cute. I bet it will sell well. If it was in stores (with more
> train stuff) it could really attract new train builders.
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> http://shop.lego.com/images/products/TYPE10/set384x288us010015.jpg
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> Why did they used stacked 1x1 round bricks. I wonder if they tried thinner
> supports, like the ones on 10013, but changed their minds. Hm, 1x2x3
> windows...that will make it hard to sit minifigs next to the windows; won't it?
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> http://shop.lego.com/images/products/TYPE10/set384x288us010016.jpg
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> Not bad. I don't think a real good solution for using these pieces in a tank car
> yet. The pieces are attractive because of their roundness but their roundness is
> the source of some substantial building issues. (By the way, does this mean LEGO
> is now officially making trains 8 studs wide ;)[1]
I think so. Pandora's box has officially been opened:-) As for your analysis of the
tank car, I think you are correct-- the ladder shouldn't penetrate the tank cylinder,
but rather run up the outside of it. Connecting all of this is a part of the building
issues you mentioned. But it's a great start:-)
> http://shop.lego.com/images/products/TYPE10/set384x288us010017.jpg
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> Interesting design, and it looks like it can be emptied from the sides. I don't
> know if I like the color scheme. I am leaning towards I don't like the color scheme.
> Two things bother me about this line of trains. (1) The extensive use of the 4x6
> double sided roof piece in the caboose (10014) and the coach (10017). I'd rather
> have more flexible (use wise) parts. (2) These aren't "normal" train sets. It
> seems that LEGO direct is interested in LEGO trains, but LEGO (normal) isn't.
> Unless models like the caboose are included in the LEGO catalogues that go into
> the regular models I worry that a lot of potential buyers will be missed. So,
> the train line will not sell as well as it could, and LEGO "normal" will
> continue to neglect trains.
Okay, Chris, now here are 2 things I *like* about this line of trains.
(1) Their ability to appeal to 2 different groups. These trains are fairly basic and
can appeal to kids and AFOLs who enjoy running stock LEGO trains-- they look good
enough to run out of the box (as opposed to, say, the 4561, 4533, etc). They also have
appeal to LTDs and other AFOLs who crave specialty train parts such as the 1x2x3 green
train window or the 1x2x2 black thin wall with clear pane; or parts in new colors, such
as the 1x2 green log brick, or the 1x2 clear plate.
(2) Their price points. These sets are relatively cheap, which is good for LTDs and
parts bursters alike. This, actually, addresses one of your complaints about the roof
piece. I guess I don't mind the POOPs, because they are keeping the overall price
down. For me, I see these sets as beefed up parts packs. Except for a few choice
elements, most of the set is extraneous, so the cheaper the better. For someone
willing to run a set out of the box unchanged, I think that it wouldn't be an issue
anyway.
As far as LEGO's interest in trains goes, it does appear that LD has taken the mantle
of the trains theme and is running with it. What is good about that is that when these
and other offerings do well, it *will* spark the interest of "LEGO normal", and that
means financially *justifiable* reasons to augment the 45xx line (which presumably
would mean new parts, track? etc).
But even if "LEGO normal" continues to neglect 9 volt, it wouldn't be so bad, because
it is my understanding that LD can accomplish most of what "LEGO normal" can anyway.
-John
> Chris
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> 1. I got this one for you John :)
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