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Re: Lugnet should be MORE draconian
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lugnet.admin.general
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Wed, 2 Mar 2005 21:00:05 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.general, Leonard Hoffman wrote:
> I'm writing this as a user of Lugnet, not particularly as an Admin. I'm writing
> this way to get the reactions of other users in this concept.
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> If Lugnet has added 'no cursing' to the ToU for the expressed purpose of making
> this site friendly to children, then the current method of limiting cursing is
> seriously defunct. People have, in the past, cursed and cursed a lot, and then
> refused to request a cancel. These posts are still viewable today - by children
> or anyone who comes accross them.
Sadly the children tend to be the ones using the most unacceptable vernacular.
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> Leaving the policing of users to the users themselves has not worked, and can
> not work within a large community such as Lugnet - especially when the only
> penalty is the admonishment of your peers.
Yeah.. sure let the fox guard the henhouse.
> Lugnet should not try to define what 'cursing' is, as the concept is changing
> over time and in responce to circumstances. Aggression without use of certain
> key words should be limited just as much as cursing proper.
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> Lugnet Admins should be given the power of:
> 1. Directly editting the posts of users without their consent.
> 2. Directly canceling the posts of users without their consent.
> 3. Suspending and/or banning users who repeatedly break the ToU.
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> If Lugnet wishes to maintain the spirit of no censoring, then it could follow
> Ray Sander's advise - http://news.lugnet.com/general/?n=50243 - and provide a
> link to an unedited copy of the message. A link that children would be advised
> to avoid.
As me Pappy used to say.. Sic' Em Boys!
> Thus no more need for Larry to track down users and try to politely urge them to
> follow the ToU, and then have those members then come back and accuse Larry of
> being draconian. The actions of the Admins would be invisible to the general
> public, except as the generic 'Lugnet Administration has editted this post' and
> their actions would be above scrutiny.
I think we should give Lar a large Lego Bat to enforce the ToU with!
> This would allow the Admins to be more immeadiate and complete in their attempt
> to police Lugnet. It would also be easier for users to obey the ToU, especially
> when they remain ignorant of policy updates in .admin.general. The whole
> she-bang would flow a lot smoother.
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> -Lenny
Hey look the world is a diverse and unusual place, full of wackos, wierdos, and
loonies. Personally, I'm all three.. but that's beside the point.. I look at it
this way- You want to piddle and moan and froth at the mouth.. fine.. do it.. On
your own server. Wether we like it or not, the Server, Internet connection etc.
is paid for and thereby owned by Todd! You don't like how he wants to run it?
Great.. Run your own ya lazy, cheap gits!
Todd tries and run things in a nice soft, squishy P.C. fashion.. you crank
yankers who just want to moan, go start your own board, admin it, buy the disk,
pay for the power and the internet uplink. Carlin's 7 USA words are nothing! If
you included all the countries which speak english and all of their variants of
vernacular and added the other languages in, we'd all be in constant violation
of someone's local form of vile vernacular. So when a board or sysadmin limits a
couple of hundred words.. wine on.. they might just decide to get really tough
about it.
Todd, my vote is this - Sir, you own it, run it as you like and the rest can run
their own!
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| I'm writing this as a user of Lugnet, not particularly as an Admin. I'm writing this way to get the reactions of other users in this concept. == If Lugnet has added 'no cursing' to the ToU for the expressed purpose of making this site friendly to (...) (19 years ago, 1-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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