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| | | In lugnet.trains, John Neal writes: <snip> (...) Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain... -grin- For those of you who don't know what we're talking about, John Neal (aka "John2") thinks that all LEGO trains should be built 8 studs wide. The (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | Re: 8 Wide —John Neal
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| | | | (...) But you have to admit that they look great (8 wides) compared to toyish 6 wides. I like the analogy of comparing 6 wides to Lionel trains. They just don't look right. And although 8 wides look "LEGO goofy" compared to model trains, they at (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | 8 wide and bigger (was Re: 8 Wide) —Mike Poindexter
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| | | | John2, You may not need to get a couple of million bricks for your 8 wide layout. You can just use mine. It will be built to allow 8 wide trains to run. I fixed the problems with the turns being too sharp and am going to next fix the track point (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | Re: 8 wide and bigger (was Re: 8 Wide) —Kevin Loch
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| | | | | (...) Would a simple solution to the turn problem be to just double up on magnets? (stick an extra magnet or two between the cars). KL (25 years ago, 19-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | Re: 8 wide and bigger (was Re: 8 Wide) —Mike Poindexter
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| | | | | | | The problem is that the turns are so sharp that the cars clip the corner by as much as 6-8 studs, depending on the length of the car. An extra magnet or two won't help. I put one straight between the curved sections and although it looks a little (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: 8 wide and bigger (was Re: 8 Wide) —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | (...) lol As I was responding to Kev, you posted:-p Yes, this is a major problem when dealing with passenger cars or locos that are (in my case) 60-80 studs long. One just can't build anything close to turns (This, unfortunately, *includes* the (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | Re: 8 wide and bigger (was Re: 8 Wide) —John Neal
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| | | | | | (...) Hmmm. Spacing was never a problem for me. (Perhaps because I do not use the buffers). Mike, is this the problem to which you are referring (decoupling)? Since my passenger cars are so heavy, there seems to be a limit as to how many I can pull (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | Re: 8 wide and bigger (was Re: 8 Wide) —John Neal
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| | | | | (...) Mine is 8 wide compatible, too. Would be fun to get them together:-) (...) I'm guessing that mine is the "coolest" [1] (...) LOL No, I don't have any Freudian desire to have the biggest on the block BUT.... I figure that 10 is roughly (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | Re: 8 wide and bigger (was Re: 8 Wide) —Jeremy Spin
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| | | | | | (...) The Mountain. Is it one of the green ones made of plastic (or something) used in scale model railroads? If so how much do they cost & what sizes. Thanks -J.W.Hummer www.geocities.com/spincity999 (25 years ago, 19-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 8 wide and bigger (was Re: 8 Wide) —John Neal
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| | | | | | (...) lol Sorry, I am a sort of purist. It is/will be built completely out of LEGO bricks. Thousands, actually. And it will be white, of course. -John (...) (25 years ago, 20-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | LL Trains (was Re:8 wide and bigger(was Re: 8 Wide) —John Neal
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| | | | Mike, et al- I have begun construction of a 14 wide box car [1] and am suddenly very interested in the scale of the LL trains. Does anyone know how many studs wide those babies are? I am looking for some good pics on line, but can't seem to find (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | Re: LL Trains (was Re:8 wide and bigger(was Re: 8 Wide) —Russell Clark
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| | | | | (...) Try my web site: (URL) pictures legoland0089.jpg through legoland0107.jpg. These might be of help. Sorry for the quality, but it was raining on the opening day. :) Russell (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | Re: LL Trains (was Re:8 wide and bigger(was Re: 8 Wide) —John Neal
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| | | | | | Thanks, Russell, although they give nice views of the yard, etc, they weren't quite close enough for me to be able to count studs;-( -John (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LL Trains (was Re:8 wide and bigger(was Re: 8 Wide) —Russell Clark
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| | | | | | | (...) I remember telling myself I needed to take close-up shots. Ummmm, I just found this link: (URL) (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: LL Trains (was Re:8 wide and bigger(was Re: 8 Wide) —James Powell
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Assuming they are semmetical, the trains then are 20 studs wide. Better get that car _much_ wider there John! (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: LL Trains (was Re:8 wide and bigger(was Re: 8 Wide) —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Ahh, it appears that the different LLs are using different scales-- from 16-20 studs wide. I think I will stick to around 14 wide because I am going to use G scale wheels (and track, for that matter) and that width (13-14 studs) is about (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LL Trains (was Re:8 wide and bigger(was Re: 8 Wide) —James Powell
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| | | | | | | | | | (1:22.5 to around 1:32), according to my feeble-minded (...) 1:1 to 1:32. Not quite the smallest you can ride behind...Our current club newsletter (Vancouver Island Model Engineers) shows a O gauge engine hauling 2 people. There was a story 20 (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: LL Trains (was Re:8 wide and bigger(was Re: 8 Wide) —Kevin Maynes
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Yikes.. that looks like... 20-wide! No room for Selective Compression there! K.M. (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: LL Trains (was Re:8 wide and bigger(was Re: 8 Wide) —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | (...) pieces. I bet The Purists are drooling over this shot;-) I personally am not a big fan of this type of modeling (where one needs to "create" a windshield like this). It works well on such projects as creating a 30 foot Mt Rushmore, but for (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LL Trains (was Re:8 wide and bigger(was Re: 8 Wide) —Tom Stangl
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| | | | | | (URL) 403 - (URL) leads me to believe they are 16 stud, it looks like there are 3 4stud wide sections divided by 1x tiles, and the outside edges are 1x. Then again, the outside edges could be 2x, making them 18studs wide. (...) -- | Tom Stangl, (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LL Trains (was Re:8 wide and bigger(was Re: 8 Wide) —Mike Poindexter
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| | | | | | I checked when I was at LL CA and I am positive that they are 16 studs. LL CA uses a different kind of track than LL Windsor or Billund, I believe and so the scales of one LL train might not match up with another LL train. I personally will not go (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LL Trains (was Re:8 wide and bigger(was Re: 8 Wide) —John Neal
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| | | | | | (...) Absolutely. 16 wide is ridiculously wide for LEGO track gauge; it would have to be on G scale gauge. Now Frank, there is no law (yet;) that says one only must build in one scale-- I build a little in minifig (for the GMLTC layout), mostly in (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LL Trains (was Re:8 wide and bigger(was Re: 8 Wide) —James Powell
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| | | | | | | (...) Not really true. If you accept that the track gauge is 5 studs, then 3x5=15, which is the maxiumum proportion one should use (3x the track gauge is how wide the maximum normal load should be) For example, the SRRL #9 (2-4-4T was 7'3" wide, on (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: LL Trains (was Re:8 wide and bigger(was Re: 8 Wide) —Jonathan Reynolds
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| | | | | | | | (...) wide (...) are (...) I checked out the smaller (UK) prototype train models at LL Windsor - they are 18 studs wide and were a job to count whilst the trains were on the move. This translates to 144mm wide - about right for an 8'6" to 9' wide (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: LL Trains (was Re:8 wide and bigger(was Re: 8 Wide) —Tony Priestman
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| | | | | | | | On Mon, 24 Jan 2000, Jonathan Reynolds (<Fov6A8.HIq@lugnet.com>) wrote at 23:51:44 (...) ...And a bit wider is eight studs :-) I'm *definitely* going to try this soon. (25 years ago, 25-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LL Trains (was Re:8 wide and bigger(was Re: 8 Wide) —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | John (and others, except James Powell who no doubt knows this already) You toss around "G Scale" a lot but unlike most other gauges, G isn't really just one scale. LGB is narrow gauge and thus is to a bigger scale (22:5 to 1??) than some of the (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LL Trains (was Re:8 wide and bigger(was Re: 8 Wide) —John Neal
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| | | | | | (...) You are absolutely right, Lar. According to largescale.com, there are 7 different scales that run on #1 Gauge track. LGB is 1:22.5, Aristo-craft is 1:29 (except their Classic series, which is 1:24, USA trains and Bachman are (I think) 29:1. (...) (25 years ago, 25-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LL Trains (was Re:8 wide and bigger(was Re: 8 Wide) —James Powell
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| | | | | | The (...) That then is _not_ G scale anyway...it is Gauge 1 Course Scale (track profile defines it as course/fine, although I am not sure how much the fine scale track profiles are used in Gauge 1) James Powell (with a 3 Gauge Loco somewhere to (...) (25 years ago, 25-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | Re: LL Trains (was Re:8 wide and bigger(was Re: 8 Wide) —Tony Priestman
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| | | | On Mon, 24 Jan 2000, John Neal (<388C9F76.FE132DA9@...west.net>) wrote at 18:52:50 (...) From my last trip to LLW, I seem to recall someone pointing out that the HST standing in Waverley station was 17 wide. (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
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