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| | | | | Re: Prepare to cry: 2007 train pics —John Neal
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| | | | | (...) I was, but I didn't. Should I have? Over what? JOHN (18 years ago, 4-Jan-07, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: Prepare to cry: 2007 train pics —Timothy P. Smith
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| | | | | | | (...) Planned obsolescence, I think. (18 years ago, 4-Jan-07, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Prepare to cry: 2007 train pics —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | (...) Yes, well, if that is the case, then I've already cried those tears. The best we can hope for, IMO, is to somehow get TLG to continue to manufacture the 9 volt train motors. The sad part for me will be that we won't really be ambassadors for (...) (18 years ago, 4-Jan-07, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Prepare to cry: 2007 train pics —Mike Walsh
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| | | | | | | | "John" <John@TCLTC.org> wrote in message news:JBD2x0.CGC@lugnet.com... (...) [ ... snipped ... ] Question for you track modders (Ondrew?): Is there some sort of metal paint or other material which could be applied to the rails of the new cross over (...) (18 years ago, 4-Jan-07, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Prepare to cry: 2007 train pics —David Koudys
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| | | | | | | | | (...) I'm definitely going to try--when I have a sec I plan on putting some metal duct tape on the plastic rails that I currently own and see what happens. Dave K (18 years ago, 4-Jan-07, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Prepare to cry: 2007 train pics —John Gerlach
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Maybe the adhesive copper foil used to make stained glass windows? JohnG, GMLTC (18 years ago, 4-Jan-07, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Prepare to cry: 2007 train pics —Dave Curtis
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) This may be a dumb question -- I've never had a close-up look at a piece of R/C track -- is there something about it that prevents simply using some 9V straights and curves as "donors" for a metal transplant? -dave (18 years ago, 6-Jan-07, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Prepare to cry: 2007 train pics —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) It's not a dumb question, but a good one. The reason is that the 9v track is molded slightly differently to account for the height of the metal, therefore making the final dimensions the same with the older, plastic rails (dimensions to which (...) (18 years ago, 6-Jan-07, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Prepare to cry: 2007 train pics —Dave Curtis
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) OK, thanks, that makes sense. So... do you really need something with a non-trivial profile -- a "channel", as you say, or does the top of the rail just need to be shaved down? I'm thinking that a woodworker's drum sander (the stationary kind (...) (18 years ago, 6-Jan-07, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Prepare to cry: 2007 train pics —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) It's a question better answered by a modder like Ondrew, but I think you are correct-- "channel" probably wasn't the best description. Shaving down would work AFAIK. That is to match track height. Now the 9 volt train motor actually picks up (...) (18 years ago, 6-Jan-07, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Prepare to cry: 2007 train pics —Dave Curtis
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | In lugnet.trains, John Neal wrote: ..snip.. (...) Hmm... I wonder if that would need to be notched to accept "donor" rail. (...) May well be. I was thinking that the donor rail might not seat well if the rail head profile is too wide. Anyway... (...) (18 years ago, 6-Jan-07, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Prepare to cry: 2007 train pics........adapting metal to plastic rails —Ondrew Hartigan
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) here's the easiest way for me to explain this i can think of. new RC plastic track (URL) old metal rail track minus the metal (URL) to put metal on the new RC track in order to make 9v trains work you need to shave the top and sides of the (...) (18 years ago, 6-Jan-07, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Prepare to cry: 2007 train pics........adapting metal to plastic rails —Lester Witter
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Surfacing tools such as sanders and planers have a lot of torque and would probably tear the parts up Better is a light duty router or rotozip. I think a cutter is beter than a sander to get a smooth result. Either way you might get chipping (...) (18 years ago, 6-Jan-07, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Prepare to cry: 2007 train pics........adapting metal to plastic rails —Dave Curtis
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| | | | | | | | | | | | In lugnet.trains, Ondrew Hartigan wrote: ... snip... (...) Yes, helps a lot, thanks! I guess the trick is finding a good way to narrow the rail profile. Since it isn't worth modding the simple straights and curves, any tool would have to fit within (...) (18 years ago, 6-Jan-07, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Prepare to cry: 2007 train pics —Lester Witter
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) There is conducting tape used to repair traces in printed circuit boards that may be better. Checek electronics suppliers Lester (18 years ago, 6-Jan-07, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Prepare to cry: 2007 train pics —Aaron M. Sneary
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| | | | | | | | (...) From my old model railroading days, I know that there is conductive tape (as mentioned) and conductive PAINT. Don't know how long it would hold up to trains rolling, but it's worth a try, at least on this piece. I also learned today that there (...) (18 years ago, 9-Jan-07, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | Re: Prepare to cry: 2007 train pics —Timothy Gould
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| | | | | | (...) It was in reference to the fact that TLG have finally made the much desired crossover track... but most of us can't use it. Tim (18 years ago, 4-Jan-07, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Prepare to cry: 2007 train pics —John Neal
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| | | | | | | (...) I see. Well, that is why God created (URL) Ondrew>;-) JOHN (18 years ago, 4-Jan-07, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Prepare to cry: 2007 train pics —Ondrew Hartigan
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| | | | | | | | (...) We could debate whether it was god who created me all day, but I do know I was the first to create the double crossover. As seen in this (URL) post> dated Tue, 22 Nov 2005 (URL) I find it odd that the only 3 differences that can seen between (...) (18 years ago, 5-Jan-07, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Prepare to cry: 2007 train pics —Didier Enjary
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| | | | | | | | (...) SNIP (...) Hi Ondrew, I understand your feeling, Maybe aknowledgement is something they would like to give you but they CAN'T simply for legal reasons : they would recognize explicitely that the concept is from you and then they would have to (...) (18 years ago, 5-Jan-07, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Prepare to cry: 2007 train pics —Ondrew Hartigan
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Well after talking with a lawyer today it seems as if I have no recourse, as it's been more than a year since I first announced the double crossover. Quite honestly I think it sucks but, since I cannot go after TLC, TLC should at least be kind (...) (18 years ago, 6-Jan-07, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Prepare to cry: 2007 train pics —Jan-Albert van Ree
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Excuse me, but why would TLC owe you anything? Double crossovers have IRL existed for well over 100 years... The new LEGO version is even vastly different from your type, since it only has 2 levers instead of 4. So I don't see any reason why (...) (18 years ago, 6-Jan-07, to lugnet.trains) !
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Prepare to cry: 2007 train pics —Luca Giannitti
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| | | | | | | | (...) Didier is right, TLC can't do it, probably it was their legal office to deny it, but it's obvious that it hurts. In someway it's going on the same thing happened whith the Little Armory vs. the new SW guns. I would very happy if TLC would use (...) (18 years ago, 12-Jan-07, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Prepare to cry: 2007 train pics —David Koudys
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| | | | | | | (...) Oh I'll find a way to use it... :) Dave K (18 years ago, 4-Jan-07, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Prepare to cry: 2007 train pics —Timothy Gould
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| | | | | | | | (...) hehehe. That was my second thought after seeing it... someone's gonna mod this lickety spit. Tim (18 years ago, 4-Jan-07, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Prepare to cry: 2007 train pics —Ondrew Hartigan
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| | | | | | | | (...) i'll see what i can do about putting some metal on it when i get my hands on one. it should be fairly easy as 1/8in u channel is readaly avalible in brass and works very well. i'll have to make a tool to scrape or shave the plastic to fit it (...) (18 years ago, 5-Jan-07, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Prepare to cry: 2007 train pics —Christopher Masi
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Oh, you're out of the business for the time being? I didn't know if aab.jpg here ((URL) meant that you weren't taking orders for some mythical creation entitled aab or if you weren't taking orders at all. I've been on the fence about ordering (...) (18 years ago, 5-Jan-07, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Prepare to cry: 2007 train pics —Ondrew Hartigan
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| | | | | | | | | | In lugnet.trains, Christopher Masi wrote: snip (...) Thanks for the complement. I think I might be able to imagine the time it takes to think about buying a computer. I’m still on windows 98 first edition. =) Yea I know. Ondrew (18 years ago, 5-Jan-07, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Prepare to cry: 2007 train pics —Lester Witter
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| | | | | | | | (...) Could you suggest a source Lester (18 years ago, 6-Jan-07, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Prepare to cry: 2007 train pics —Ondrew Hartigan
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| | | | | | | | (...) Sure no problem. The 1/8in brass U channel I have used in the past is easily obtainable at most hobby shops. However I have found it in may other locations including ace hardware and hobby lobby. It’s even available in lengths up too 3 ft but (...) (18 years ago, 6-Jan-07, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Prepare to cry: 2007 train pics —David VinZant
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| | | | | | (...) After looking at the pictures it got me thinking. If you had two main lines and ran the trains in the same direction. One train would jump to the other main line. As the track only has one toggle for two switches on each end. Thus causing one (...) (18 years ago, 5-Jan-07, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Prepare to cry: 2007 train pics —Christopher Masi
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| | | | | | (...) [...] (...) Thanks Dave, that hadn't occurred to me. My first thought was, "Cool, you only have to worry about setting one switch", rather than, "Huh, you can't set each switch independently." Actually, my first thought was "Pussbucket! We're (...) (18 years ago, 5-Jan-07, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Prepare to cry: 2007 train pics —Ondrew Hartigan
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| | | | | | (...) the back switch is set to center. so it looks as if you have nothing to worry about. ondrew (...) (18 years ago, 5-Jan-07, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Prepare to cry: 2007 train pics —David VinZant
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| | | | | | (...) If you zoom in on the image, you can see the switch is leaning to the left. I would like to hope there is a center position, but I think LEGO® may have over looked that. Dave www.GPLR.org (18 years ago, 6-Jan-07, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Prepare to cry: 2007 train pics —Ondrew Hartigan
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| | | | | | (...) If that is truly the case and they did over look it, I have already figured out how to fix the issue with out changing the exterior appearance of the part. If I do end up having to mod this thing, I will post instructions I promise you. ondrew (18 years ago, 6-Jan-07, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | Re: Prepare to cry: 2007 train pics —Jordan Bradford
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| | | | | Re: Prepare to cry: 2007 train pics —Brian Pilati
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| | | | (...) I'm not much of a train expert but I do like this new piece. Could it be possible to use four of these wires (One for each of the four possible options, 2 straight, 2 curves ) (URL) jumper between the metal tracks and then run two motors on (...) (18 years ago, 12-Jan-07, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: Prepare to cry: 2007 train pics —Christopher Masi
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| | | | (...) Interesting idea. I wonder how long a train would have to be to make it through the switch using your proposal. Maybe I'll experiment latter tonight. Chris (18 years ago, 13-Jan-07, to lugnet.trains)
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