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    2003 Trains - great! —Roy Gal
   Many of you may have seen this from other posts, but for those who haven't- NEW TRAINS FOR 2003! Passenger Train (bullet style) (URL) Train (URL) Station (URL) Crane (URL) other 2003 sets can also be seen, including some of the new town lineup! Roy (22 years ago, 5-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains) !! 
   
        Re: 2003 Trains - great! —Harvey Henkelman
     Oh, oh.... (22 years ago, 5-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
    
         RE: 2003 Trains - great! —Mark & Milissa Millère
     Harvey Henkelman Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 11:02 PM To: lugnet.trains@lugnet.com Subject: Re: 2003 Trains - great! Oh, oh.... My thoughts exactly Harvey, must.........resist............to .........use.................plas tic......... Thanx, (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: 2003 Trains - great! —Robert Powell
      (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: 2003 Trains - great! —Jared Chan
     Is there a transparent route chart on the platform? (22 years ago, 5-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: 2003 Trains - great! —Bert Waters
     (...) Bert Waters (22 years ago, 5-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: 2003 Trains - great! —Mike Walsh
       "Bert Waters" <lhwaters@hsc.vcu.edu> wrote in message news:H8850G.I0G@lugnet.com... (...) haven't- (...) boxcar! (...) I believe the $280 SRP (suggested retail price) number is for both sets (there are two to a carton) making a single unit $140 (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: 2003 Trains - great! —Bert Waters
      (...) Oh, I guess "each" means each carton. So the Bullet trains are $180 for two? They come two to a carton also, and both sets say "each". At $90 for the Bullet trains and $140 for the cargo trains, it looks - great! Bert (22 years ago, 5-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: 2003 Trains - great! —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) If you look at the bullet train pic, it gives the impression that it does not come with a complete circle of track, at least to me. LEGO has always been careful not to put things that aren't included into their pics. (I am talking about the (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: 2003 Trains - great! —James Powell
        (...) That's why I think that they do come with a full circle/oval of track, because the boxes don't have a part count, which is typical for US boxes. So, I think that we will see full track with them- probably no points, but a oval again. I'm (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: 2003 Trains - great! —Paul S. D'Urbano
      (...) Interesting... It looks like the two new train sets just come with a couple straight tracks each. I think this may be a good idea. I think most people who have bought a few LEGO train sets in the past, each with it's own basic oval, have found (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: 2003 Trains - great! —Chris Quade
     (...) It's a case of 2. So, it's actually $140. (22 years ago, 5-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: 2003 Trains - great! —Reinhard "Ben" Beneke
     (...) Thanks for posting these picture links here! I just wanted to share a few spontanous thoughts of mine: - the bullet train looks a lot like the German ICE 3 train. How will the (one?) car look like? Airplane windows + no doors? What is the use (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: 2003 Trains - great! —Erik Olson
     I think Ben should say if he made the pictures this time. I think Ben would have used more green and red colors, but maybe the low-key approach is part of the trick. (...) (22 years ago, 6-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: 2003 Trains - great! —John Neal
      (...) Yes, and it was very clever of him to comment on the sets as if he had never seen them before. I'll bet the dark gray spray paint was still on his fingers when he posted! Crafty Ben..... "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice...." ;-) JOHN (22 years ago, 7-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: 2003 Trains - great! —Jason J. Railton
      (...) No, I think if Ben had faked some new sets he might actually have come up with ones I'd like to buy... Sorry. I'm all for expanding the train range. But these just don't have any huge appeal to me. By the way Ben, how's your building schedule? (...) (22 years ago, 7-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: 2003 Trains - great! —Reinhard "Ben" Beneke
      (...) fingers (...) twice...." (...) Very kind words.... Thanks, you seem to have high expectations in my building abilities. But for the freight train I think that is a quite good design. And we always have to be aware: these are sets to aim at (...) (22 years ago, 7-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: 2003 Trains - great! —Jason J. Railton
      (...) I know, and I hope they do sell well. The freight train is probably the only one I'm interested in, but I might just stick to buying parts. I'd certainly like a closer look. (...) Don't forget the classic tan + brown. It really needs to be (...) (22 years ago, 7-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: 2003 Trains - great! —Reinhard "Ben" Beneke
     (...) I had nearly the same thought, Erik. The quality of these pictures is not so much better tham those in my year 2000 april fools joke. Models are dark and fuzzy, track is missing and the models are photographed in a way that they are partly out (...) (22 years ago, 7-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: 2003 Trains - great! —Harvey Henkelman
     (...) Looks like I'll be buying the Cargo train this year, looks to me like a recoloring of 4564 (drools at boxcar doors) -Harvey (22 years ago, 5-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: 2003 Trains - great! —Stefan Garcia
     *drool* That freight train rocks!!! Is it just me, or does Lego seem to have gone hog-wild with trans-dk. gray (smoke) parts? It's about time! -Stefan- (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: 2003 Trains - great! —Thomas Burger
     (...) no its not you.. lego made to many for star wars. now all those starfighter windshields have to look nice on modern euro freight :) but the fact that its tinded windshields could make use if they ever got a liscence with universal for "fast (...) (22 years ago, 6-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: 2003 Trains - great! —Gary Mullen
     In lugnet.trains, Roy Gal writes: snip... (...) Indeed, looks like there are many excellent new sets coming out. It's going to be an expensive year! ;-) My question is, has anyone here setup an account with Marz Distribution? I haven't put a lot of (...) (22 years ago, 6-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: 2003 Trains - great! —Rob Doucette
     (...) At a minimum, you need a state sales tax license which will probably require state registration as a business. Don't assume that there is any great savings by purchasing from Marz. LEGO leaves them very little margin, especially with new (...) (22 years ago, 8-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: 2003 Trains - great! —William R. Ward
     (...) Those are trivial to get, at least in California. I have one. (...) There are probably a lot of other strict restrictions on ordering. For one thing I know that hobby shops can't carry just the trains line, or they would order it from Marz. So (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: 2003 Trains - great! —Michael Harrod
     Excellent!!!! Well, there goes MY raise..... Play Well!!!! MCH (...) (22 years ago, 6-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: 2003 Trains - great! —Steve Barile
     Great? well... a few very nice parts: (2x) drk gray Santa Fe style windshield, drk gray train (4x) windows and (2x) doors, (8x) drk gray container doors, and (2x) gray big boxcar sliders, assuming symmetry. Go, all you Bricklink store keepers! (...) (22 years ago, 7-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: 2003 Trains - great! —David Graham
   It was good to hear of the new trains for 2003. Looking in the rest of the Marz catalogue there is no mention of track, points or speed regulator. Are they expecting shops to only stock these 4 sets and you have to go to S@H for the add-ons? It is (...) (22 years ago, 8-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: 2003 Trains - great! —Tilman Sporkert
   I have the impression that the images that we are all discussing here are just very early mock-ups. The availability dates shown are half a year away. Or in other words, at this time, everything is just pure speculation. If the sets really come out (...) (22 years ago, 9-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
 

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