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    new models 2005 (crane) —Vineet Honkan
   Hey guys- I was just browsing Brickshelf ((URL) when I noticed how they set up the crane. 1) Yes it has steering (though which knob you turn i DON'T KNOW) 2) The extending mechanism for the boom, it's done by a chain (I didn't know this. My idea for (...) (19 years ago, 14-Jan-05, to lugnet.technic)  
   
        Re: new models 2005 (crane) —Chris Pritchard
     (...) OooOoOoOoOOO!!!! Did you see the forklift, the excavator and the motorcycle alongside the crane???? I wants them all! :D nice to see that lego has not forgotten the studded beams. and to see that lego is starting to use long-unused parts (...) (19 years ago, 14-Jan-05, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: new models 2005 (crane) —Ross Crawford
     (...) Me either but my guess is there's a knob on the back. (...) Well it appears the chain is only to extend the innermost section, from other pics I think the first section is extended using gear & racks like 8460. (...) Yeah, interesting the (...) (19 years ago, 14-Jan-05, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: new models 2005 (crane) —Vineet Honkan
      The fact that it has a 3-section boom is making my mouth water! I must get this set (maybe two!)! The tires and wheels I can use in future creations (maybe a grove gmk 7550 perhaps?I really need to finish my crane CAD rendering!)! (19 years ago, 15-Jan-05, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: new models 2005 (crane) —Vineet Honkan
      Hey y'all- Do any of you know when the crane model will be released? Thanks. (19 years ago, 15-Jan-05, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: new models 2005 (crane) —David Arnon
      (...) No, but the text in the brickshelf folder says "autumn 2005". Wow, great sets. Something good is happening over in Lego Technic. - David (19 years ago, 15-Jan-05, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: new models 2005 (crane) —Vineet Honkan
       AArgh! That's too long a wait! Me want lego crane now! LOL! (19 years ago, 15-Jan-05, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: new models 2005 (crane) —Mark Tarrabain
      (...) My question is this. Why would previews that are factual be on Brickshelf at all? If they really are from somebody at LEGO, wouldn't they be on a site where not just anybody can post pics of whatever LEGO stuff they want? And don't you think (...) (19 years ago, 15-Jan-05, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: new models 2005 (crane) —David Arnon
      (...) We've seen it year after year. It's usually pictures taken from a dealer catalog or a toy show and show a preliminary design that is usually very close to what you can buy a few months later. Lego tries to keep it confidential but since there (...) (19 years ago, 15-Jan-05, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: new models 2005 (crane) —Maico Arts
      Ross Crawford schreef: (...) I think they use it both. I think they are using the chain as in real life the cables are used to extend the third section. (For as far as I know real life cranes) (...) If it were for the photo, I would have sprayed it (...) (19 years ago, 15-Jan-05, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: new models 2005 (crane) —Vineet Honkan
     Could you explain to me how the chain would be used in extending the boom sections? I am very curious (if possible, could you post a few drawings or sketches?). Thanks. (19 years ago, 15-Jan-05, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: new models 2005 (crane) —Nathan Bell
      (...) It probably works just like a forklift chain. It doubles the extension distance but cuts the mechanical advantage in half. TLC probably is using it the same way they use the chain in the new forklift set. One serious question does arise- Why (...) (19 years ago, 15-Jan-05, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: new models 2005 (crane) —Paul Kleniewski
      IMHO TLC is not producing longer cylinders becase when piston is sticked out it can become bent in two ways 1. as a rod 2. in the place where rod's connected to the piston (inside) it is a very big problem to make piston's rod stiff and seal it up (...) (19 years ago, 15-Jan-05, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: new models 2005 (crane) —Ross Crawford
     (...) Hi Vineet, Jennifer Clark's Ideas page describes it very well: (URL) you look at the diagram and imagine the bottom left half of the red cable flipped vertically, so it is attached at the top (where the other half is attached) rather than the (...) (19 years ago, 15-Jan-05, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: new models 2005 (crane) —Vineet Honkan
     Sobasically whatyou're saying is that the third and only the third is operated by the chain (or the string in JC's idea)? Would that make the third section sturdy? Because from what I've seen it doesn't look sturdy at all. Thanks. (19 years ago, 16-Jan-05, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: new models 2005 (crane) —Ross Crawford
     (...) Yes. But that is only a guess from the pictures. (...) I doubt it would affect the sturdiness. And it will be interesting to see how sturdy it is. ROSCO (19 years ago, 16-Jan-05, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: new models 2005 (crane) —Vineet Honkan
     My next question is about how the chain/string is setup. In JC's design, the string isn't set up like a loop. I can see how this would work, but what is confusing me is how they would set up the chain as a non-loop object. Could you tell me how this (...) (19 years ago, 16-Jan-05, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: new models 2005 (crane) —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) One of the really neat things about new models from LEGO, when they're well done, is that there are lots of neat tricks to learn from... rather than trying to suss everything out in advance, you might consider just waiting till the model is (...) (19 years ago, 16-Jan-05, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: new models 2005 (crane) —Ross Crawford
     (...) Best to wait till the set is released. There are many ways to do it. And it looks like it IS set up as a loop, I guess maybe using a couple of the wide track links, but maybe not. I'm guessing as much as you. ROSCO (19 years ago, 16-Jan-05, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: new models 2005 (crane) —Vineet Honkan
     Thanks y'all. (19 years ago, 16-Jan-05, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: new models 2005 (crane) —Paul Kleniewski
     hi i think there is another new brick the rear leg has two smoth half bushes and on the left side of them there is a brick like liftarm 2x2 L-shape the black one on the picture (you can say this is regular 2x4 L-shape but notice the inverted slope) (...) (19 years ago, 15-Jan-05, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: new models 2005 (crane) —Fredrik Glöckner
   I think that the administrators are not so happy about people discussing leaked images on LUGNET. At least this early revealing of the new sets may stop the annual "technic is dead" whine-fest. I think that technic is better than ever before. (...) (19 years ago, 15-Jan-05, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: new models 2005 (crane) —Larry Pieniazek
   (...) I think you are right. Unfortunately I may have been one of the people discussing these, so if you're pretty sure these are leaked, I'll ask around and if they are, I'll have to go cancel my posts. (and if anyone else feels the need for (...) (19 years ago, 15-Jan-05, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: new models 2005 (crane) —Fredrik Glöckner
     (...) I don't usually see the text "PRELIMINARY DESIGN" on LEGO publications which are intended for the public. Fredrik (19 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: new models 2005 (crane) —Jindrich Kubec
     (...) Are the dealers catalogs public or not? Jindroush (19 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: new models 2005 (crane) —Larry Pieniazek
   (...) I did some asking around. I can't actually say what answers I got or who I asked. But I am not as concerned about these particular images (even if, as I speculate, they are dealers catalog images) as I am about some other things that have been (...) (19 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: new models 2005 (crane) —Fredrik Glöckner
   Ok, so the LUGNET policy towards discussing leaked images has changed. Fine, there's one less thing to worry about. Fredrik (19 years ago, 23-Jan-05, to lugnet.technic)
 

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