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<old man voice> When I was a kid, our spaceships were BLUE and GRAY and we LIKED IT. </old man voice> I don't buy that argument. I built my own stuff when I was a kid. IMO, if you have to learn to differentiate between parts, it only makes you a (...) (24 years ago, 19-May-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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(...) 'scuse me? I thought kids were supposed to have *fun* with LEGO first, not suffer through character-building exercises. But I tend to agree with Fredrick's explanation, anyway. The fewer part-color combinations there are, the simpler (cheaper) (...) (24 years ago, 19-May-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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(...) not (...) a (...) Scuse me? Since when was building things out of LEGO considered "suffering?" I sure wasn't "suffering" when I was a kid and got my 6980 Galaxy Commander... I was thrilled! It was the biggest spaceship of the LEGO lineup at (...) (24 years ago, 19-May-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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(...) I don't really understand everyones perturbance about "juniorization" or whatever else you dont like about the pieces you get. I bought this set because I wanted the special pieces and the figures. frankly, any other pieces that it comes with (...) (24 years ago, 19-May-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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(...) pieces (...) red (...) more (...) plates, (...) What we complain about are things that reach us on an emotional level. Those of us who are against "juniorization" are against it because we see this as a cheapening of the toys we grew up with (...) (24 years ago, 19-May-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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(...) I'd like to add that BURPs and POOPs are essential to some of my projects. They allow space conservation where bricks would not. However, it would suck if that was ALL I had. They add to creativity in my case and I welcome them to my (...) (24 years ago, 19-May-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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(...) projects. (...) would suck (...) them (...) I'll agree with you there. I like some of the POOPs, like the saucer parts. And I agree that BURPs can make building a mountain easier. Still, I was mainly addressing the question of "why do you (...) (24 years ago, 20-May-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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(...) Here's an example of how limiting the 1x4x3 poops are compared to 1x4s: if you had one 2 1x4x3 bricks, you have 24 possible combonations. If you have six 1x4s, you have 102,081,500 possible combonations. Incredible. Alan (24 years ago, 20-May-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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(...) If I was playing the devil's advocate, I would say that this train of thought suggests that there should be no bricks, only plates. After all, according to your math, there are only 24 ways to combine to 1x4 bricks, but there are 102,081,500 (...) (24 years ago, 20-May-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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(...) I didn't realise there was a 1x4x3 brick (!!). I've only seen thinwalls and windows of that dimension; the thinwalls, of course, don't count as POOPs, because they perform a service that cannot be rendered with standard bricks--namely, making (...) (24 years ago, 20-May-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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(...) This raises an interesting point. Let's take, for example, some of the rock-patterned slopes on Ninja sets. If Lego gave you 20 preprinted slopes with which to make that shape, people would be whining day and night about having so many (...) (24 years ago, 20-May-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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(...) patterned (...) make that (...) patterned (...) in the (...) they (...) mention that (...) Oh, I would much rather have seen the Ninja walls as pre-printed slopes even if the set cost was slightly higher (which undoubtedly it would be). I see (...) (24 years ago, 20-May-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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(...) because (...) making (...) Oh...oops, I meant 2x4s and 2x4x3s. Alan (24 years ago, 20-May-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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(...) What I meant was that it might be great for a Ninja set, but the utility of those preprinted parts ends there. You can't use them in Space, Town (for the most part), or anything nautical like Hydronauts or boats. Using them would be akin to (...) (24 years ago, 20-May-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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(...) Slopes with rock patterns? Those would be so great! Any time a sloped rock wall was needed, they could be employed. I've built a Divers display (nothing fancy, just the 'official' models with some extra background), with a pier made out of (...) (24 years ago, 22-May-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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(...) Well-said. Kids don't suffer for being asked to use their brains and develop a few problem-solving skills. IMHO, sets should be designed with attractiveness in mind (and, in regards to SW, with accuracy as well); who cares what color a child's (...) (24 years ago, 22-May-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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(...) You make a good point, but I don't think that I agree with you. I wouldn't use the 20 said bricks in all my building projects involving slopes, but I would use them in some, as I felt appropriate. I would rather have 20 preprinted slopes that (...) (24 years ago, 22-May-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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(...) It all depends on your definitions. 'Suffering' to one person is 'enjoying' to another.[1] Some kids would be highly frustrated by having to backtrack a couple of steps. Some won't. In your earlier post, you said: (...) (BTW, I generally agree (...) (24 years ago, 24-May-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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(...) So? Does that mean LEGO should pander to the lowest-common-denominator and the short-of-attention-span by making their sets build-by-color? Bah. I think long-time LEGO builders all possess a certain retentiveness that allows them to paw (...) (24 years ago, 24-May-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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(...) This hasn't been mentioned yet, so I guess I'll throw in my $0.02. Personally, I'd rather have all matching bricks for my MOCs, but if you look at the stuff that some of the younger kids submit to the Lego magazine, they often are just (...) (24 years ago, 24-May-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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(...) Well, I don't think I agree with the 'supposed to' part. I think OFTEN, character building is unpleasant, but I think it can be fun as well... ESPECIALLY when you can see the results. As someone else pointed out (James S. I think) he was (...) (24 years ago, 24-May-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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I think that depends on the kid. I got my first DUPLO set when I was 4. I built multicolored things then, sure. When I got the Alpha I Rocket Base in 1980 for my 6th birthday, I was really excited. I got a set of REAL LEGO! From then on, I was (...) (24 years ago, 24-May-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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(...) Personally, (...) In reply, you build with what you've got. My larger projects as a child (sub- 13) were ambitious yet plagued with the "rainbow disease". I had many red and white bricks, followed by blue, yellow and finally black and grey. I (...) (24 years ago, 24-May-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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(...) Dave, I think that you have written the most concise and articulate statement regarding what is wrong with Lego today. I don't have a perfect analogy offhand, but being a fan of Lego these days is like watching an accident about to happen, or (...) (24 years ago, 24-May-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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(...) those (...) to (...) But you raised an example that if instead of the wall panel, there were a bunch of pre-printed slopes that people would complain about, and that in that case, you would rather have one large piece which is easier to toss (...) (24 years ago, 24-May-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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