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Re: It's Time AFOL Take Action!
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Date: 
Sat, 8 Jan 2000 21:51:17 GMT
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In lugnet.space, Jonathan Reynolds writes:
> Wow! It's a brilliant summary.
> 
> It's not just the adults who appreciate the 'good old sets'. For example, I
> have recently aquired a 3225 train which bucks the trend towards ever more
> futuristic train models from TLG. The set appealed to me and was purchased as
> a gift to my daughters who have shown scant interest in the 4559 and 4565
> above the usual toy play value of an electric train.
> 
> The 3225 Classic Train (which incidently echoes the former 12v DB stuff) was a
> firm favourite which a six year old and a four year old built with enthusiasm.
> Later, we were running the train around the attic railway when we were visited
> by a friend (boy) around the corner, also six who joined in the fun. Result -
> all three kids were very passe regarding the recently bulit 4565 (plus one or
> two of my creations!) and fought over the 3225 because, presumably, it appears
> as a "choo-choo" train.
> 
> This set is a 'classic' in so much as it provides a basis for CREATIVE
> building using the kid's imagination rather than fixed cockpit designs etc. of
> the latest 1999 trains. The only thing lacking is a decent steam-outline
> chassis (are you listening TLG?).
> 
> The same response was illustrated with the architecturally interesting 2150
> station which overshadows virtually every lego building marketed in the last
> decade (a firm favourite with visiting kida aged 9-15 over Christmas)
> 
> With the plans we have for a UK-outline model railway we would dearly love to
> see TLG issue bulk packs of train windows, signals etc however there is one
> fear I have should TLG start to concentrate on AFOLS....
> 
> Look at ANYTHING from 30-odd years ago which is recreated these days - psuedo
> antique radios, reproduction or original toys at swap-meets and old British
> motorcycles - the prices are out of this world! In fact the prices are not
> reflective of the quality of the original items at all, merely the
> nostalga=demand=supply level. If TLG market to adults specifically, I can see
> the prices of these sets going through the roof.
> 
> My personal feeeling is that a set from 'the good old days', is far more
> appealing to KIDS as well as AFOLS. I suppose it's just a case that they just
> can't be all things to all men and Town Jr./Rock Raiders etc. sells to the
> average (some would say ignorant!) parent. A real shame because the building
> system lends itself to attractive architecture and engineering as expressed in
> most of the old sets and only a few of the new.
> 
> How do we influence TLG as adult buyers? The situation is not helped by the
> fact that I buy nearly all of my train stuff through specialist shops who can
> sometimes obtain out-of-production stock. None of these sets turn up as
> a 'demand' item on TLG stock returns so our invisibility may explain some of
> the apparent indifference by TLG.
> 
> With some reservations concerning adult prices, I hope that something positive
> results from all of this.
> 
> Jon Reynolsa
> 
> 
> In lugnet.space, Patrick Leahy writes:
> > In lugnet.build, Ian Sinclair writes:
> > > Originally this message was about some LEGO train cars.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > It is time AFOL (`Adult Fans Of LEGO' for the new readers) take action
> > > that prompts a change in the business practices of The Lego Group
> > > (TLG).
> > > 
> > > This message started out as a posting about some Train cars.
> > > 
> > > Now it has turned into a crusade that requires its own thread here and
> > > on Lugnet.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I want to see The LEGO Group make some long overdue changes to its
> > > business practices.
> > > 
> > > I have been buying only Mindstorms and Technic sets (including the old
> > > great big ones) in the past year after leaving my dark ages because of
> > > the lure of robotics.  I also bought the Star Wars sets for themselves
> > > and parts.  All of the above sets have been great. I am very happy
> > > with them, the parts, and don't regret spending the money one bit.
> > > 
> > > I have also seen dozens and dozens of the posts complaining about the
> > > new train sets, cars and town sets. But I wasn't really finding those
> > > concerns with the sets I was buying.
> > > 
> > > The use of BURPs, and the lack of more service packs and bulk block
> > > sales WAS beginning to concern me as my collection and dreams of LEGO
> > > heaven grew rapidly.
> > > 
> > > But it wasn't until I bought the 1999 passenger train and started into
> > > that LEGO obsession that I realized how god awful these Train and Town
> > > sets are compared to their predecessors.



So you say adults aren't the only fans of classic sets?  That's extremeley
useful info, seriously.  I wonder if it could have an effect on TLG...
Z



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Wow! It's a brilliant summary. It's not just the adults who appreciate the 'good old sets'. For example, I have recently aquired a 3225 train which bucks the trend towards ever more futuristic train models from TLG. The set appealed to me and was (...) (27 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)

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