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Re: On to other news....
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Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:39:07 GMT
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In lugnet.space, Jesse Alan Long writes:
In lugnet.space, Greg Majewski writes:
In lugnet.space, Jesse Alan Long writes:
I have two questions for the people in this bulletin board.  The first >question
is why has Lugnet not put a section for Exploriens?  They have all of the >other
themes except Exploriens.

My guess is that it is just a simple mistake by Todd.

The second question is if Legoland Space and Futuron/Futureworld are
considered two different sets, then why do they have the same symbol?  People
on this bulletin board would say that the first Space Police symbol is also >too
similar to the Futuron/Futureworld and these people are correct in their
response to that question.

Wow... that was really awkwardly worded. But I think I get your idea. First
of all, what is with "Futureworld?" There was never any line of products by
this name. The line you probably mean is Futuron. The reason Futuron is
considered seperate from Classic Space is because 1. Futuron was actually
declared as a subtheme of the Space System, where Classic Space had all
generic sets within that system. 2. The minifigs are different, as are the
color schemes. Also, I do not see where you are coming from when you say
that the Space Police symbol is similar to CS and Futuron. While CS and
Futuron do both have the orbiting shuttle logo, Space Police's logo is the
words "SPACE POLICE."

I believe that this is how Legoland and the Space
theme originated over twenty years earlier in the Lego Company.  I believe
that, as with Blacktron and Space Police, that there are two different series
of Futuron/Futureworld but starting around the year of 1985, the later version
of Futuron/Futureworld was created parallel to the old Futuron/Futureworld.
The Space Police probably became a security force for the Futuron/Futureworld
people and that is how they got the first version of Space Police.  Does >anyone
know what the truth is about this situation of Legoland Space and
Futuron/Futureworld?

Yes, I think it is safe to say that "I know the truth" about the situation.
Classic Space got started back in 1978, and then for whatever reason Lego
decided around 1987 to start running two parallel but seperate lines of
Space toys that had real names and have been dubbed as "subthemes:" Futuron
and Blacktron. After these two subthemes debuted, Classic Space hung around
for maybe a year at the most and then fizzled out. Space Police came a
couple of years later and so was never run parallel to Classic Space. Space
Police was its own subtheme and was never a part of Futuron or Classic Space.

Hopefully this will solve some of your confusion.

greg
http://www.geocities.com/citrusx__/q.html
The instructions for the Canadian Lego catalog of 1988 referred to Futuron
as Futureworld.  The same symbol appears for Futuron sets as it does for
Legoland Space sets and both Futuron and Legoland Space have the same logo.

Are you talking about the logo itself, or the design of the "uniform"?

The first version of Space Police has the similar planet on the shoulder
logo as Futuron and to most people, those Space Police figures can be easily
confused with the black shouldered figures of Futuron and the only
differences are that the planet is gold and not yellow on their shoulders
and that the Space Police I visors are red and not blue as was the normal
visor colors of Futuron.  The words "Space Police" do not appear until the
1992 resurrection of Space Police, or as known on Lugnet as Space Police II,
and on Space Police I, only the word "Police" appears on the doors that are
red as opposed to the transparent green of the windows, windscreens, and
visors of the Space Police II sets and figures.  I believe that they simply
referred to Futuron as Legoland Space for several years because they did not
have any ideas for any competing forces in space until 1987.  I believe that
if you play a certain video game with a sword carrying elf named Link, you
will see why the old Blacktron logo does not exist on the newer Blacktron
sets.  I believe that Nintendo could have sued Lego for copyright
infringement because of the old Blacktron logo but they, meaning Lego,
discontinued that logo for fear of being sued by Nintendo.  I hope that
shows more information to you, Greg.
Jesse Long

This link has a lot of information for you (if you haven't been there
already...).

http://www.lugnet.com/fibblesnork/lego/guide/space/

Would you mind separating your post into paragraphs? It makes it very hard
to read one large slug of text. I have skipped over several posts because
they were too hard to follow. I hope that I didn't miss anything too important.

-Duane



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(...) It is interesting to know that there are three new versions of Futuron uniforms, including two variations of the black Futuron uniform. The same logo, on both the uniforms and the space craft, are on Legoland Space and Futuron. The red, white (...) (23 years ago, 21-Jun-01, to lugnet.space)

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(...) as Futureworld. The same symbol appears for Futuron sets as it does for Legoland Space sets and both Futuron and Legoland Space have the same logo. The first version of Space Police has the similar planet on the shoulder logo as Futuron and to (...) (23 years ago, 21-Jun-01, to lugnet.space)

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