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Re: On to other news....
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Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:18:41 GMT
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In lugnet.space, Duane Hess writes:
> In lugnet.space, Jesse Alan Long writes:
> > In lugnet.space, Greg Majewski writes:
> > > In lugnet.space, Jesse Alan Long writes:
> > > > I have two questions for the people in this bulletin board. The first >question
> > > > is why has Lugnet not put a section for Exploriens? They have all of the >other
> > > > themes except Exploriens.
> > >
> > > My guess is that it is just a simple mistake by Todd.
> > >
> > > > The second question is if Legoland Space and Futuron/Futureworld are
> > > > considered two different sets, then why do they have the same symbol? People
> > > > on this bulletin board would say that the first Space Police symbol is also >too
> > > > similar to the Futuron/Futureworld and these people are correct in their
> > > > response to that question.
> > >
> > > Wow... that was really awkwardly worded. But I think I get your idea. First
> > > of all, what is with "Futureworld?" There was never any line of products by
> > > this name. The line you probably mean is Futuron. The reason Futuron is
> > > considered seperate from Classic Space is because 1. Futuron was actually
> > > declared as a subtheme of the Space System, where Classic Space had all
> > > generic sets within that system. 2. The minifigs are different, as are the
> > > color schemes. Also, I do not see where you are coming from when you say
> > > that the Space Police symbol is similar to CS and Futuron. While CS and
> > > Futuron do both have the orbiting shuttle logo, Space Police's logo is the
> > > words "SPACE POLICE."
> > >
> > > > I believe that this is how Legoland and the Space
> > > > theme originated over twenty years earlier in the Lego Company. I believe
> > > > that, as with Blacktron and Space Police, that there are two different series
> > > > of Futuron/Futureworld but starting around the year of 1985, the later version
> > > > of Futuron/Futureworld was created parallel to the old Futuron/Futureworld.
> > > > The Space Police probably became a security force for the Futuron/Futureworld
> > > > people and that is how they got the first version of Space Police. Does >anyone
> > > > know what the truth is about this situation of Legoland Space and
> > > > Futuron/Futureworld?
> > >
> > > Yes, I think it is safe to say that "I know the truth" about the situation.
> > > Classic Space got started back in 1978, and then for whatever reason Lego
> > > decided around 1987 to start running two parallel but seperate lines of
> > > Space toys that had real names and have been dubbed as "subthemes:" Futuron
> > > and Blacktron. After these two subthemes debuted, Classic Space hung around
> > > for maybe a year at the most and then fizzled out. Space Police came a
> > > couple of years later and so was never run parallel to Classic Space. Space
> > > Police was its own subtheme and was never a part of Futuron or Classic Space.
> > >
> > > Hopefully this will solve some of your confusion.
> > >
> > > greg
> > > http://www.geocities.com/citrusx__/q.html
> > The instructions for the Canadian Lego catalog of 1988 referred to Futuron
> > as Futureworld. The same symbol appears for Futuron sets as it does for
> > Legoland Space sets and both Futuron and Legoland Space have the same logo.
>
> Are you talking about the logo itself, or the design of the "uniform"?
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> > The first version of Space Police has the similar planet on the shoulder
> > logo as Futuron and to most people, those Space Police figures can be easily
> > confused with the black shouldered figures of Futuron and the only
> > differences are that the planet is gold and not yellow on their shoulders
> > and that the Space Police I visors are red and not blue as was the normal
> > visor colors of Futuron. The words "Space Police" do not appear until the
> > 1992 resurrection of Space Police, or as known on Lugnet as Space Police II,
> > and on Space Police I, only the word "Police" appears on the doors that are
> > red as opposed to the transparent green of the windows, windscreens, and
> > visors of the Space Police II sets and figures. I believe that they simply
> > referred to Futuron as Legoland Space for several years because they did not
> > have any ideas for any competing forces in space until 1987. I believe that
> > if you play a certain video game with a sword carrying elf named Link, you
> > will see why the old Blacktron logo does not exist on the newer Blacktron
> > sets. I believe that Nintendo could have sued Lego for copyright
> > infringement because of the old Blacktron logo but they, meaning Lego,
> > discontinued that logo for fear of being sued by Nintendo. I hope that
> > shows more information to you, Greg.
> > Jesse Long
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> This link has a lot of information for you (if you haven't been there
> already...).
>
> http://www.lugnet.com/fibblesnork/lego/guide/space/
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> Would you mind separating your post into paragraphs? It makes it very hard
> to read one large slug of text. I have skipped over several posts because
> they were too hard to follow. I hope that I didn't miss anything too important.
>
> -Duane
It is interesting to know that there are three new versions of Futuron
uniforms, including two variations of the black Futuron uniform. The same
logo, on both the uniforms and the space craft, are on Legoland Space and
Futuron. The red, white and green uniforms make the figures resemble
walking Christmas trees but I like the black, yellow, and white color scheme
of the Dacta Futuron set. I wish they would make that Dacta set a regular
part of the revived Futuron set in Lego Legends. Fibblesnork, however, made
a cruicial mistake when it showed four different types of Space Police II
figures. There has, and always will be, only two different types of Lego
Space Police II figures and why do I believe this statement? I have looked
on every set of instructions for Space Police II and only two types of
figures exist, the green front figures and the black front figures with the
red shoulder sashes.
The question about the logos apply to both the space craft symbol and the
uniform symbol and the uniform symbol on the Futuron sets are a smaller
version of the symbols of the Legoland Space sets. Greg, however, is wrong
to say that Classic Space, or more properly, Legoland Space, was started in
1978 because it was started in 1979. I read the catalogs, Greg, so please
do not argue with me on this point and if you still do not believe me, look
at the catalog archives on Lugnet.
Jesse Long
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| (...) Sorry, it was started in 1978. (...) Sorry pal, but you're not going to win this. If you insist you are right, I insist that you check the release date on <set:924> (23 years ago, 21-Jun-01, to lugnet.space)
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