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    New Moc: The Firebird —John Henry Kruer
   Hey, all. Yes, I'm alive, and to prove it, I've posted a new moc in my uncompleted new website. (Give it a few seconds to load.) (URL) built some of it at music camp over the summer. I've also gotten a new camera, which is really great but still a (...) (21 years ago, 23-Aug-03, to lugnet.space, lugnet.announce.moc) !! 
   
        Re: New Moc: The Firebird —Chris Giddens
     DUDE! You have grown into THE premere teen builder. This is just a classy MOC. Studless, greebly and a super clean shape. Awesome intakes. Keep it space my man. Enjoy the next level. (URL) Admiral Giddens <>< (URL) space. (21 years ago, 23-Aug-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
    
         Re: New Moc: The Firebird —John Henry Kruer
      (...) Wow, thanks Chris! I wasn't expecting it to get the big response it did... But yeah, I tried to keep the studlessness and shape there. This is kind of a progression from my infamous Patrol Boat. (...) I dunno 'bout the space part, (I'm (...) (21 years ago, 23-Aug-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
    
         Re: New Moc: The Firebird —Mark Sandlin
     (...) I concur. Let this be an example to all the people out there who would whine and complain about .space having an "elite" group or whatever. Kick*** MOCs DO get noticed. -Grand Admiral and Keeper of Fleebnorks (URL) "Adopt a fleebnork. They're (...) (21 years ago, 23-Aug-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
   
        Re: New Moc: The Firebird —Joe Meno
     (...) Wow, pretty darned cool there! Nice job onthe ship all around, but I really like the intake grilles and the general shape. And teh over exposure actually works for me..some of the pics look CGI, which I find pretty cool in this case! Great (...) (21 years ago, 23-Aug-03, to lugnet.space)
    
         Re: New Moc: The Firebird —John Henry Kruer
     (...) Yeah, the CGI looks is kinda nice, and I've been experimenting with lighting. I think that (URL) this> is my best attempt. (Warning! Large file!) And, of course, it gets harder with larger MOCs. But I'd still preffer getting finer detail even (...) (21 years ago, 23-Aug-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
    
         Re: New Moc: The Firebird —Joe Meno
      (...) You're doing a different approach than most with lighting. It lookslike you are basically using harsh lighting to define contour, which I wouldn't think would work, but it works very well. And your camera has a REALLY nice macro function! (...) (21 years ago, 23-Aug-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
    
         Re: New Moc: The Firebird —Stephen F. Roberts
     On 15.42 8/23/2003 +0000, Joe Meno wrote (...) Finishing flipping through old posts, I just realized I forgot to thank Joe for letting me crash on his chair Friday nite at BrickFest!!! Thanks Joe!!!...!!! --- wubwub aka stephen f roberts (...) (21 years ago, 29-Aug-03, to lugnet.space)
    
         Re: New Moc: The Firebird —Joe Meno
     (...) Anytime:) Joe .space paparazzi! (21 years ago, 29-Aug-03, to lugnet.space)
   
        Re: New Moc: The Firebird —Jon Palmer
     "John Henry Kruer" <jhk@jhkruer.com> wrote in message news:HK1wrr.1GoL@lugnet.com... (...) to me, (...) NICE!! I adore this. Ooooo you put the grille tiles on the inside of the quarter panels. Very nice. This thing is excellent. I don't think there (...) (21 years ago, 23-Aug-03, to lugnet.space)
    
         Re: New Moc: The Firebird —John Henry Kruer
     (...) Wow, thanks. The grills at first were almost an afterthought, I just needed something to plug the front gap of the quarter panels. But after time, I began liking it more and more. (...) Wish I could say the same... but I do think it is my best (...) (21 years ago, 23-Aug-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
   
        Re: New Moc: The Firebird —Rick Hallman
     Dude......... I love this ship! I love how clean the ship is yet, it has a odd ugliness to it. the front end looks out of place with the massive engines! I like! the intakes on the engines themselves are cool in their own right. The two forward (...) (21 years ago, 23-Aug-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
    
         Re: New Moc: The Firebird —John Henry Kruer
     (...) I love that industrial look. :) (...) No, they don't, but thats a nifty idea. I'll go and mess around with that idea. I like how clean ther (...) Yes and no. Yes it has landing gear, but they don't retract. I've found that making retractable (...) (21 years ago, 23-Aug-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
   
        Re: New Moc: The Firebird —Chris Maddison
     (...) Dude, absolutely beautiful. So clean and greebled in all the right places. Like Jon, love the grille tiles inside the quarter panels. And the interior is really sweet - this ship almost looks like it was built from the inside out, if you know (...) (21 years ago, 23-Aug-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
    
         Re: New Moc: The Firebird —John Henry Kruer
     (...) Yeah, right. :) I slaved over the exterior for days and then just kinda slapped in the interior just before I photographed it. But I did think about the little arm reccess for the bed beforehand... (...) Thanks- some of the earlier images I (...) (21 years ago, 23-Aug-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
   
        Re: New Moc: The Firebird —Nathan Wells
     (...) Spacey. 'Nuff said. (No, seriously, John, you ROCK! Luv the engines, luv the shape, luv the smoothness! Keep at it!) (URL) ^green with envy (21 years ago, 23-Aug-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
    
         Re: New Moc: The Firebird —John Henry Kruer
      (...) Agreed. :) (...) Thanks! (...) Just keep at it, Nathan... I'm still not finished, at look at some of MOCs from half a year ago. Just keep building, at the rate you building, your advancing very rapidly. (2 URLs) >> (21 years ago, 23-Aug-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
    
         Re: New Moc: The Firebird —Benjamin Medinets
     (...) I usually frown on "Me-two", but I have to agree with Nathan. This model is really well built. It looks simply Awesome. I was breathless as I first beheld it. Then I saw a close-up of the interior, and I lost my breath again. Wow!! Very Nice. (...) (21 years ago, 23-Aug-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
    
         Re: New Moc: The Firebird —John Henry Kruer
     (...) :) Thanks! I'm surprised this got such a big response. I've actually made the front page for the first time. :) (...) Don't worry, Ben. I have a medium-sized castle thing in the works. :) (2 URLs) >> (21 years ago, 24-Aug-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
   
        Re: New Moc: The Firebird —Richard Marchetti
     (...) unmodded brickshelf folder? In a word: superlative! I don't think Giddens meant anything by it, but no qualifications are necessary here -- age doesn't matter. It's a great, great MOC no matter who built it or under what circumstances. That it (...) (21 years ago, 23-Aug-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
    
         Re: New Moc: The Firebird —John Henry Kruer
     (...) Yup- I posted a tiny little teaser earlier this week on my close-up image thread. (...) :) Original. Thanks! (...) Yes, I agree. Just need to take the time to think and BECOME a builder. (...) Thanks, thanks, thanks. I appreciate that. But (...) (21 years ago, 23-Aug-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
   
        Re: New Moc: The Firebird —Mike Petrucelli
     (...) Is there a link that won't crash my browser upon cliking on it? -Mike Petrucelli (21 years ago, 23-Aug-03, to lugnet.space)
    
         Re: New Moc: The Firebird —Richard Marchetti
     (...) I've seen simpler looking URLs, but it works for me in every browser I have so far. Can you be more specific about the problem? What's your browser? -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 23-Aug-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
    
         Re: New Moc: The Firebird —Mike Petrucelli
     (...) Oh yeah. I am using Netscape 4.61. Now I know it doesn't work on a lot of newer java and flash crap but I have never had it crash on a normal webpage before. I click on the link I see a grey screen and the bar at the top of the page and poof (...) (21 years ago, 24-Aug-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
    
         Re: New Moc: The Firebird —John Henry Kruer
      (...) Strange. I don't use any javascript, just plain 'ol HTML. (At least thats what you see.) Well, here are a few deep links for you. Hope they work for you. (5 URLs) Oh, and why don't you upgrade? Its free, and v.6 or IE or whatever will be a big (...) (21 years ago, 24-Aug-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
     
          Re: New Moc: The Firebird —Mike Petrucelli
      (...) Yes they did, thanks. That is just plain awesome, but everyone told you that already. :-) I didn't realize it was mainly grey. It looked white in the thumbnail pic on the space page. (...) Well I have Opera for stuff that needs to be secure, (...) (21 years ago, 24-Aug-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
    
         Re: New Moc: The Firebird —Brandon Harris
     (...) I'm pretty sure it would be the css that tells the body to have margins of 0. This has caused me problems with NS 4.X in the past - but it's perfectly legible. To be honest, your browser is out of date (and actually has several security holes (...) (21 years ago, 24-Aug-03, to lugnet.space)
   
        Re: New Moc: The Firebird —Mark Sandlin
     (...) You did well with the studless look. I like the red with grille tiles on the engine intakes. -Grand Admiral and Keeper of Fleebnorks (URL) "Adopt a fleebnork. They're DYING!" -Sally Struthers (21 years ago, 23-Aug-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
    
         Re: New Moc: The Firebird —John Henry Kruer
     (...) Thanks for pointing that out- especially to me, with my deprived knowlage of sci-fi stuff. (...) Thanks... I think it makes for a cool effect. Part of this, BTW, was inspired by your Candiru. Great MOC. (2 URLs) >> (21 years ago, 24-Aug-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
   
        Re: New Moc: The Firebird —Zac Soden
     (...) JHK you are the greatest, dude! The exterior is absolutely superb, and as others have noted, the grilles in the engines are perfect. The interior is great - as I have said before you can't beat a tiled floor! Your greebs are great but I fount (...) (21 years ago, 23-Aug-03, to lugnet.space)
    
         Re: New Moc: The Firebird —John Henry Kruer
     (...) Yeah... well, I just thought I needed to put a powerplant-thing somewhere, so I just put a few things there. And I was planning to put in a bit int he description about Pete's old car radiater, which you can see on the front-port interior, but (...) (21 years ago, 24-Aug-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
    
         Re: New Moc: The Firebird —Zac Soden
     (...) Me? I'm in the middle of a space 'bus' heavily inspired from the Ken-Tucky Works Stardock Omnibus. I'm on holidays at my parents' house at the moment so all I can do is mentally plan the rest of it - it was about 60% done when I left and I (...) (21 years ago, 24-Aug-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
   
        Re: New Moc: The Firebird —Gregory Muri
     Man this is an awesome ship! I especially like the studless appearance. Can't wait to see more like this! Great job! Greg "John Henry Kruer" <jhk@jhkruer.com> wrote in message news:HK1wrr.1GoL@lugnet.com... (...) to me, (...) (21 years ago, 23-Aug-03, to lugnet.space)
    
         Re: New Moc: The Firebird —John Henry Kruer
     (...) Thanks! Actually, I'm going to try and go for something different. I think I've got the industrial gray studless look down, and I'm gonna go for something more organic and colorful... I dunno what, yet. (2 URLs) >> (21 years ago, 24-Aug-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
   
        Re: New Moc: The Firebird —Jamie Neufeld
     (...) This one time, at music camp, you built this ship. That is one rockin ship! I have to agree with Adm. Giddens that you are are becoming a great builder. Any chance of seeing the underside of it and the cockpit? Excelent work! Jamie (...) (21 years ago, 23-Aug-03, to lugnet.space)
    
         Re: New Moc: The Firebird —John Henry Kruer
     (...) Maybe... there's not much on the underside, but I don't think it looks too bad. I could put some controls in the cockpit, but it is hard to photograph. I've always admired you work, Jamie- any chance of new MOCs from you? :) (2 URLs) >> (21 years ago, 24-Aug-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
   
        Re: New Moc: The Firebird —Keith Goldman
     Man this is smooth... like Billy D. Williams and the great taste of Colt.45. You are the premere builder with three letters for a name. Seriously though... I have to start with the privacy curtain on the head... damn funny... who wan'ts to drop (...) (21 years ago, 24-Aug-03, to lugnet.space)
    
         Re: New Moc: The Firebird —Mark Sandlin
     (...) I dunno, I think that title still belongs to LFB, even though he's been absent lately. ;) -Grand Admiral and Keeper of Fleebnorks (URL) "Adopt a fleebnork. They're DYING!" -Sally Struthers (21 years ago, 24-Aug-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
   
        Re: New Moc: The Firebird —Paul Baulch
     (...) Not bad John, but it looks kind of unfinished to me. Needs fins, or a tail, or something... the form's not interesting enough. I don't like the space wheels as nozzles either, doesn't cut it anymore IMO. Overall, just nowehere near as good as (...) (21 years ago, 25-Aug-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
    
         Re: New Moc: The Firebird —John Henry Kruer
     (...) Hmmm... I tried adding fins and stuff but it just broke up the body design. I just can't see it changing very much and still keeping the look I wanted. (...) Its okay.... (2 URLs) >> (21 years ago, 25-Aug-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
   
        Re: New Moc: The Firebird —Gil Shaw
     (...) Welcome back John! Ummm.... are you sure it wasn't 'Brick Camp' you were attending? ;) Much has been said already, but let me reiterate....beautiful work, sir. I can really see your lines in this as well....some of the shape of your Alien (...) (21 years ago, 25-Aug-03, to lugnet.space)
    
         Re: New Moc: The Firebird —John Henry Kruer
     (...) Hey, I'm shure. It was pretty though (URL) there>, anyway. Only time to squeeze in Lego was at around midnight. :) (...) Yeah... economy of design... more like economy of my Lego collection... :) Thanks for all the good stuff. (...) Humm, (...) (21 years ago, 25-Aug-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
    
         Re: New Moc: The Firebird —Gil Shaw
     (...) That music camp looks stellar actually...brings back fond memories. Not working on too much at the moment...just a couple small BI Joe things and a little speeder, racer doo daa. We got a new pup so he's taking up most of the time at the (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
   
        Re: New Moc: The Firebird —John Riley
     (...) Very nice! For some reason, the form looks like a submarine to me. I have to think about where I've seen this shape before. I may borrow your cockpit design for a larger terrestial vehicle. Or at least be inspired by it. Incidently, my middle (...) (21 years ago, 25-Aug-03, to lugnet.space)
    
         Re: New Moc: The Firebird —John Henry Kruer
     (...) Submarine? Hmm, that's a new one. Interesting, though. (...) Yeah, I like inspiring people. Doesn't happen much, though. ;) (...) That's what my parents call me. It can be tough to get all of those small-minded high school teachers to (...) (21 years ago, 25-Aug-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
    
         Re: New Moc: The Firebird —John Riley
     (...) I know where I've seen it: put a tail fin above and below it, and the overall shape looks very much like Blue Submarine #6 (an anime film). The other thing it reminds me of is the Y-Wing, though barely. (...) That will change. I think a (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
   
        Re: New Moc: The Firebird —Patrick Bunn
     (...) I love the interiors. Something I haven't tried to incorperate into my creations. But...NO MORE. You have inspired me to build. Thanks for a great ship. Pat Bunn (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.space)
    
         Re: New Moc: The Firebird —John Henry Kruer
     (...) Thanks for the feedback! Yeah, inreriors can be really fun. After all, all the mini-figs have to live somewhere... (2 URLs) >> (21 years ago, 30-Aug-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
   
        Re: New Moc: The Firebird —Leonard Hoffman
     (...) JHK, this is amazing. Wazow. Having done a 'studless' ship, I am every so much more awed by them. Can't wait to see the next delightful confection! And hopefully I'll get a chance to see this thing in person! <evil smile> -Lenny (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.space)
    
         Re: New Moc: The Firebird —John Henry Kruer
     (...) Yeah, studless ships can be hard, especially because my before seriously depleted stock of tiles is now pretty much out of existent. But the look makes it worth it. :) (...) So do I, comrade. Hehe.... :) (2 URLs) >> (21 years ago, 30-Aug-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
   
        Re: New Moc: The Firebird —Mike Kollross
   (...) Excellent build. I disagree with previous posts - Just because the space wheels have been used as engines before doesn't make them work any less. I also like the use of the "Jolly Roger". Nice touch. I like to use the 2x2 round tile with (...) (21 years ago, 26-Aug-03, to lugnet.space)
   
        Re: New Moc: The Firebird —John Henry Kruer
   (...) Thanks! (...) Ah, yes. I liked that flag. Those safari-print 'drum' tiles really look cool, but I don't have any. :( Looks like they would be good in a type of rich snob passenger room. (2 URLs) >> (21 years ago, 30-Aug-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
 

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