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  Re: Neural network for legOS... ??
 
(...) Sorry Niels, but I would say just try it yourself, they're not that hard to do, failing that if you can find the source for a small ANN, then that stands a good chance of working, I'm running quite a powerful evolutionary algorithm on mine, (...) (24 years ago, 27-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Running IR in the background
 
Hannes, I got it to work last night. I'm modifying Markus Noga rover.c code (included when you download legos files) to include support for IR port and (passive) light sensor. Great code to look at if you're just learning C/C++. Basically, the (...) (24 years ago, 27-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Running IR in the background
 
(...) Commentary below. (...) I must have missed this one the first time around. lnp_logical_write() will block, but it should only block the thread it's called from. Put your send-zero loop in a separate thread and I think you should be set. (24 years ago, 27-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Running IR in the background
 
(...) Huge coincidence that your message should be the first I see after not having read the newsgroup for almost a year. No, as far as I can remember I never got an answer. I am using mindstorms for my final project after not having a chance to (...) (24 years ago, 27-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Running IR in the background
 
Hannes, Did you ever get any help with your question (below)? I'm trying to use the IR port on RCX along with light sensor (passive) as collision detection device. Having the same problems you're having. Clayton (...) (24 years ago, 27-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Library use in LegOS
 
(...) Not sure of the details, but the linker takes the .o file, and the symbol file LegOS.lds, created during the kernel compile, and produces two files; .ds1 & .ds2, which are then passed to makelx to produce the lx file. So it seems the linker (...) (24 years ago, 27-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: .lx format
 
(...) One other possibility is to not use the lx files at all - just stick to the srec format as (I think) LegOS used to (version 0.1.x?). A bit less efficient downloading the kernel all the time, but removes the need to dabble with lx format at (...) (24 years ago, 27-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Declarations in header files
 
Hi! This is very technical, but: does the declaration of an "extern inline const void" function really make sense? GCC accepts it, but that is a VERY lenient compiler. An extern function should be definition not have a definition, and 'const void' (...) (24 years ago, 27-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: .lx format
 
(...) So in effect, it is dependent on the gcc loader mechanism. Ungh! The idea of using two symbolsrec files: one could be kernel, the other the program. Would make sense for kernel call resolution. (...) I looked at it, and it mainly outputs (...) (24 years ago, 27-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Library use in LegOS
 
(...) OK. How are the calls to the kernel resolved? By the makelx program, or by some magical stuff in the linking. I can imagine compiling the kernel, getting a symbol table out, and then when compiling user programs, you use a linker DEFINE or (...) (24 years ago, 27-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Neural network for legOS... ??
 
Hi everybody I'm looking for a free neural network library, that I can use with legOS. Anybody knows where to look ?? Niels (24 years ago, 26-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: .lx format
 
(...) Look at legOS makefiles. The lx file is generated from two symbolsrec executables linked to different positions. The files are generated with a special linker script "legOS.lds". Maybe you can do the same with your compiler and use the makelx (...) (24 years ago, 26-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: code
 
(...) [etc.] Also, don't you use ROTATION_X instead of SENSOR_X once you get the rotation sensor set up on that port? I thought it was something like that. I'd also like to comment that this is dangerous. It's theoretically possible that your sensor (...) (24 years ago, 26-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: code
 
yego, The wait_event function takes an event function as the first parameter, not a sensor number. You need something like (forgive any errors - I don't have LegOS available at work) int rotation_event_3(wakeup_t data) { if (SENSOR_3 == data) return (...) (24 years ago, 26-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  code
 
Hi, I'm a newbie to c++ and legOS. Here is my code. Do you know what is wrong with it cause I don't. Thanks /* s.c*/ #include <unistd.h> #include <dmotor.h> #include <dsensor.h> int main(int argc, char **argv) { /* turn it on */ (...) (24 years ago, 26-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Library use in LegOS
 
Jakob "Fepp" Engblom <fepp@ieee.org> wrote in message news:GAr7Gr.2v3@lugnet.com... (...) handled (...) Each program gets it's own copy (...) Hmmmm. Not sure. Wish I knew more about compiler internals... (...) have (...) It's all custom written - (...) (24 years ago, 26-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: legOS papers?
 
(...) I could do with some technical references for my bibiliography, and so after much searching[1], I can reveal that that AUC is Aalborg University, Denmark. Furthermore, most of the authors can be found in the Computer Science department: (URL) (...) (24 years ago, 25-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Linking failure when 'making' an lx file
 
(...) Syntax error: you are missing a parenthesis at the start, right after the if. But gcc should give a fat error at the ">" sign I believe. if( COND ) STATEMENT; if( (ul_var1 - ul_var2) > sizeof(uchar)) STATEMENT; (...) It is miraculous that the (...) (24 years ago, 25-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Memory Usage
 
(...) Having written a few embedded-systems compilers, I must say that using floating point on an 8-bit chip like the H8 is generally considered crazy. The values eat memory, and the libraries drawn in can get really large (at least for a production (...) (24 years ago, 25-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Library use in LegOS
 
Hi! Another technical question about LegOS: how are libraries like float handled today? Is there one copy linked into LegOS, or is each downloaded program equipped with its own copy? If I would use a different compiler, with a different set of (...) (24 years ago, 25-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: pass by refrence or value?
 
Some basic facts about C semantics: As already stated, globals MUST be volatile if they are accessed by more than one thread, otherwise reads and writes can be out of sync. What are the types of the variables involved? Scalar values like integers (...) (24 years ago, 25-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Obstacle detection : infrared sensor ??
 
(...) We have done this in C using LegOS (it is much easier to get it off the ground in nqc). The principle is simple: * Attach the light sensor in front of the brick, close to the IR tranceiver. preferably in a low position, since you want to (...) (24 years ago, 25-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  .lx format
 
Hi! I am presently helping some PhD students here at my university prepare the labs for a real-time course using LegOS. As part of the course, we want our students to experience a modern development environment for embedded systems, and have (...) (24 years ago, 25-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Obstacle detection : infrared sensor ??
 
(...) Yeah, I built a robot and programed it whith a nqc program that someone else wrote. I dont't remember who and I don't have any links, but I do remember how it worked The rcx would send out a infarad message every cauple of mlseconds and a (...) (24 years ago, 25-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Obstacle detection : infrared sensor ??
 
Hey.. I don't know if this is a LegOS question, but here it goes... Is it possible to detect obstacles via the infrared sensor, before you bump into them ?? Like measuring reflection of infrared light or something... If it is... how ?? can anybody (...) (24 years ago, 24-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: video game type thing...
 
(...) Are you doing the if() in some kind of loop, or an event function? If the button isn't pressed at the exact time you happen to execute the statement, it won't work. It's difficult to help debug your code without seeing your code 8?) ROSCO (24 years ago, 22-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: video game type thing...
 
(...) havent followed the whole conversation here, but if ur doing an "if "test and it doesnt hit when it should, you might consider displaying the TOUCH_2 variable on the display just before the "if" test, it might not be what you think it is! (...) (24 years ago, 22-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  video game type thing...
 
Well, it still doesn't work even with the if(TOUCH_2){} instead of if(TOUCH_2 == 1){} . Any ideas? Nick H. (24 years ago, 22-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: More than one Source C file
 
Please ignore this message, Dyanimc objects :) - Ciaran (24 years ago, 20-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  More than one Source C file
 
Hi, I'm trying to compile together several C++ objects, each of which is contained in a seperate .c file, with a seperate header file, in GCC, I'd just use gcc foo.c fooa.c foob.c -o out.exe ... or whatever, how do I adjust the legos Makefile to (...) (24 years ago, 20-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Code
 
Chris, there's a CVS repository at SourceForge. Go to the legos page at legos.sourceforge.net. You'll need update access if you want to check anything in, but anyone can check out the latest, greatest source (or any previous version). HTH BTW, I (...) (24 years ago, 19-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Code
 
Is there a legOS code repository where LegOS users share code? (24 years ago, 19-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: ROM Firmware size limit? Firmdl bug?
 
(...) does the (...) them (...) web (...) when (...) rcx_comms (...) have (...) I've not done latest merge (few lines in firmdl.c), but I've modified the rcx_comms to make it win32-working (100%) inside legOS. I will send ASAP modified firmdl source (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: ROM Firmware size limit? Firmdl bug?
 
(...) I remember when I added support for larger firmware files, there was a merge that took place to get my changes into the LegOS version of firmdl. Probably Cygwin support got lost during this merge. This should be put back into LegOS for sure, (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: ROM Firmware size limit? Firmdl bug?
 
(...) Hmm. Quad speed downloading in Version 3.1 doesn't seem to work under Cygwin on W2K (though single speed does). It always returns either a 'write: permission denied' of 'bad ir link' error (which one it is seems to be random!) , even if the (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: ROM Firmware size limit? Firmdl bug?
 
(...) Get the latest version of firmdl and/or the latest version of LegOS. (URL) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: video game type thing...
 
I'll try that. I thought it was something or other like this. I'll post when I'm at least partially successful. (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: video game type thing...
 
Nick, The TOUCH_x macros are boolean - they return true or false. You should be testing if (TOUCH_2) {....} HTH ROSCO (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: video game type thing...
 
I just got new batteries for my RCX, so I just did an actual test. I didn't get very far. I don't believe that it is registering the touch sensors. Here's how I had it: if(TOUCH_2 == 1) { do this and that and that; } What's wrong with it? I should (...) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: video game type thing...
 
Or pid_t pid1 = execi... Philippe (...) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)


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