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RE: Cheap American shot (Was: NEW Mindstorms set shown (with picture!))
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<snip>
What I wrote are facts and not my own imagination so don't tell me to shut
up. You may be an exception but in general, there is less expected out of
kids that live in the US than out of kids that live in Europe. What you
wrote
in your last paragraph is typical ignorance and exactly my point. If you
live
in the US which is the world superpower then you don't need to know another
language to get by and can afford to be more of a hillbilly. If you lived
in
a small country then you would have to know at least 2 or 3 lanugages by the
time you went to college just to get by in today's business. For example as
kids, we were drilled Russian from the 5th grade and English from the 7th
grade.
Since in Europe at 14 or 15 you already have to decide what to do, while in
the US you do it at 17 or 18, it is more appropriate to put the final age
range as 14 in Europe and 16 in the US which I think is the whole point of
this debate.
</snip>
<rant>
I personally believe you are stating the "exceptions" to these rules
here. I moved from an excellent school system to a rural one and I accually
figured there would be hillbillies to be honest. I have yet to meet a
single one, I have yet to find someone that can't list off all the states in
the US, locate their captitals, ....
And most kids know multiple languages here there buddy boy.
Colleges here are not to forgiving if you don't. I'm the excepetion here
cause I went out and learned russian on my own.
Yes being the world's ONLY superpower does help in the fact we can
get away with knowing only one language. And that is an advatage so we can
drive to the next "state" over and not have to worry about the language
there. Plus we have the advatage of that most countries know English.
I know a few foreign exchange students here that are truely clueless
about everything AND have no clue what state they are in here. PLUS they
don't know what the heck they want to do at age 17.
Accually, most people here DO have a clue on what they want to do
before the age of 17 and 18, BECAUSE we choose our colleges (Which most of
the time dicate what we wind up doing) for this reason. And if they change
their minds, let them.
Yeah, Americans are Loud, rude and blunt, but hell, last time I
checked, we pulled saved everyone's ass in WWII and without us you would
have lost WWI too.
</rant>
I must admit this is one messed up thread here and sorry for igniting it,
but this set me off. Pure ignorance is a dangerous weapon. TV isn't the
answer to all your questions. Live it before you question it.
Clint Rutkas
cRutkas@techie.com
http://www.pronerd.com
http://members.xoom.com/rutkas
Fight Reality, Question History, Revolutionize the Future
-----Original Message-----
From: news-gateway@lugnet.com [mailto:news-gateway@lugnet.com]On Behalf
Of D. Jezek
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2000 4:20 AM
To: lugnet.starwars@lugnet.com; lugnet.robotics@lugnet.com
Subject: Re: Cheap American shot (Was: NEW Mindstorms set shown (with
picture!))
In lugnet.starwars, Clint Rutkas writes:
> <snip>That's because in Europe (Eastern Europe at least) kids mature
> earlier. At
> age 14 or 15 they already have to pick what they want to do with their • life,
> whether to go to middle school or job training. By the time they're 18,
> they
> can speak at least 2 if not 3 languages while some 18yr olds in the US • can't
> even locate the US on the world map.</snip>
> <rant>
>
> Easy there Jezek, I'm 18 right now and can speak Russian, German, and
> English. I can do 7 different programming languages, have a 3.9 out of 4.0
> GPA, and taking college classes to supplement what my current High school
> can't handle due to costs of the equipment.
>
> And at age 14 to 15, if you have decided what you want to do, you have been
> brainwashed into believing it, only at 17 did I decide I wanted to peruse • CS
> as a job, even now I'm tossing up between programming and networking.
>
> And yes, there are the few Americans that can't locate possible certain
> states, but if you lived where a single state is the size of YOUR entire
> country, my response would be to shut up and get a wee bit more informed.
What I wrote are facts and not my own imagination so don't tell me to shut
up. You may be an exception but in general, there is less expected out of
kids that live in the US than out of kids that live in Europe. What you
wrote
in your last paragraph is typical ignorance and exactly my point. If you
live
in the US which is the world superpower then you don't need to know another
language to get by and can afford to be more of a hillbilly. If you lived
in
a small country then you would have to know at least 2 or 3 lanugages by the
time you went to college just to get by in today's business. For example as
kids, we were drilled Russian from the 5th grade and English from the 7th
grade.
Since in Europe at 14 or 15 you already have to decide what to do, while in
the US you do it at 17 or 18, it is more appropriate to put the final age
range as 14 in Europe and 16 in the US which I think is the whole point of
this debate.
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