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Re: Cheap American shot (Was: NEW Mindstorms set shown (with picture!))
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lugnet.starwars, lugnet.robotics
Date: 
Sun, 30 Jan 2000 10:19:41 GMT
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In lugnet.starwars, Clint Rutkas writes:
<snip>That's because in Europe (Eastern Europe at least) kids mature
earlier.  At
age 14 or 15 they already have to pick what they want to do with their life,
whether to go to middle school or job training.  By the time they're 18,
they
can speak at least 2 if not 3 languages while some 18yr olds in the US can't
even locate the US on the world map.</snip>
<rant>

Easy there Jezek, I'm 18 right now and can speak Russian, German, and
English.  I can do 7 different programming languages, have a 3.9 out of 4.0
GPA, and taking college classes to supplement what my current High school
can't handle due to costs of the equipment.

And at age 14 to 15, if you have decided what you want to do, you have been
brainwashed into believing it, only at 17 did I decide I wanted to peruse CS
as a job, even now I'm tossing up between programming and networking.

And yes, there are the few Americans that can't locate possible certain
states, but if you lived where a single state is the size of YOUR entire
country, my response would be to shut up and get a wee bit more informed.

What I wrote are facts and not my own imagination so don't tell me to shut
up.  You may be an exception but in general, there is less expected out of
kids that live in the US than out of kids that live in Europe.  What you wrote
in your last paragraph is typical ignorance and exactly my point.  If you live
in the US which is the world superpower then you don't need to know another
language to get by and can afford to be more of a hillbilly.  If you lived in
a small country then you would have to know at least 2 or 3 lanugages by the
time you went to college just to get by in today's business.  For example as
kids, we were drilled Russian from the 5th grade and English from the 7th
grade.
Since in Europe at 14 or 15 you already have to decide what to do, while in
the US you do it at 17 or 18, it is more appropriate to put the final age
range as 14 in Europe and 16 in the US which I think is the whole point of
this debate.



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  Re: Cheap American shot (Was: NEW Mindstorms set shown (with picture!))
 
Jezek, you are stereotyping and generalizing Americans FAR too much here. I would believe that one as educated as yourself would not fall into this trap. "/rant" Please continue additional discussion in lugnet.off-topic.debate Thanks, -Jon (24 years ago, 30-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.robotics)
  RE: Cheap American shot (Was: NEW Mindstorms set shown (with picture!))
 
<snip> What I wrote are facts and not my own imagination so don't tell me to shut up. You may be an exception but in general, there is less expected out of kids that live in the US than out of kids that live in Europe. What you wrote in your last (...) (24 years ago, 30-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.robotics)

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  RE: Cheap American shot (Was: NEW Mindstorms set shown (with picture!))
 
<snip>That's because in Europe (Eastern Europe at least) kids mature earlier. At age 14 or 15 they already have to pick what they want to do with their life, whether to go to middle school or job training. By the time they're 18, they can speak at (...) (24 years ago, 29-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.robotics)

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