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To put this thread back on charter, what is the best way to publish Ldraw .dat files? On my system, I have associated .dat files with the program ldlite and with the mime type of "application/x-ldraw". If someone posted a .dat file with that mime (...) (26 years ago, 12-Oct-98, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) That sounds like an interesting idea, Todd. Give it a shot. I would like to try it. -- Terry K -- (26 years ago, 12-Oct-98, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) Neat idea! -- (Except all MIME posts are rejected by this newsserver...) Alternatively, would it be useful if there were a special area on the www part of the server for uploading .dat files, and having it index them and serve them back as (...) (26 years ago, 12-Oct-98, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) Er, waitaminute -- I take it back -- I wrote that code which rejects MIME messages, and -- duh -- it'd be easy to let it allow in "application/x- ldraw" while still rejecting other MIME types. Does the MIME'ing of these convert the .dat file (...) (26 years ago, 12-Oct-98, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) OK, here's what I came up with (feature list): * Storage on the lugnet.com server of LDraw .DAT files of models submitted, and the models are identified by their author. * Viewable by anyone with a web browser which can launch LDLITE (as Gyug (...) (26 years ago, 12-Oct-98, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) I guess there's one other kinda cool feature... Authors can bookmark, trade, or publish the URLs of their submissions. For example, Terry could include the following on a web page of his: <A HREF="(URL)My B-Wing Fighter Model</A> or if he (...) (26 years ago, 12-Oct-98, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) I would prefer a separate group for .DAT files (except, note, you are already breaking your rule about no images anywhere by doing this) Then I could continue to read lugnet.cad without having to worry about skipping over files with long (...) (26 years ago, 12-Oct-98, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) Hmm, I wonder why they seem different to me than images... (hmm) I guess because they're not binaries. The rule was "no binaries," not "no images." And the whole LCAD thing needs as much support as it can get, IMHO... It's the greatest (...) (26 years ago, 12-Oct-98, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) I think the names of the groups themselves, in this case perhaps more than in others, would make it obvious that .dat is for .dat files whereas .cad is not. Then again, maybe I'm assuming too much. (26 years ago, 12-Oct-98, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) They are useful ONLY for people who have the ability to view them. For the rest of us, they are as non-useful as binaries in a textual group. What is the population of LDraw vs non-LDraw users? The one .DAT that was posted was a LONG, (...) (26 years ago, 12-Oct-98, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) Oh yeh...the other thing. Binary images like GIFs and JPEGs are real über-pigs on bandwidth and disk space (over time). But LDraw .DAT files are about as thin as thin can get. --Todd (26 years ago, 12-Oct-98, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) Hmm, I'm wondering... What if it were "OK and acceptable" to post .DAT files in any group, as long as they were accompanied by commentary? I can see them being useful in a discussion of castles, or space ships, or other areas where someone (...) (26 years ago, 12-Oct-98, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) lugnet.cad.dat sounds BEST to me. I can simply not subscribe then :) WHile staying subscribed to lugnet.cad since I DO want to learn how to use L-CAD Sarah Heacock sarah@eskimo.com (26 years ago, 12-Oct-98, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) How about if there were a group lugnet.cad.dat and it required that the Followup-To field be set (to something else, usually lugnet.cad)? --Todd (26 years ago, 12-Oct-98, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) I think this is good. I am poised to publish a Dat as soon as I here from Moz about a rendering he is putting on his site for me. This was my plan: In Lugnet.robotics and Lugnet.build, I was going to post a commentary on the model and a link (...) (26 years ago, 12-Oct-98, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) if (...) there (...) I'll wait, I'm waiting to hear from Moz anyway. LINC (26 years ago, 12-Oct-98, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) Well, there's not lugnet.cad.dat group yet, so the closest thing would be lugnet.cad -- certainly OK to post the DAT file there today. The scripting for the followups is going to be simple to write, but will need an hour or maybe more of (...) (26 years ago, 12-Oct-98, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) Way cool, Todd. At least it is cool in Netscape. So far IE doesn't seem to want to work right. Anyone get IE to work with this? I keep getting a dialog box claiming that the directory is invalid. The directory reference in it seems to be (...) (26 years ago, 13-Oct-98, to lugnet.publish)
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Waaaay cool, Todd. Of course, now I can think of a zillion ways ldlite could work better, like putting a "Save As" option on the menu, and having the zoom factor and viewing direction be set from a menu, and Saving all the comment fields to a (...) (26 years ago, 13-Oct-98, to lugnet.publish)
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lugnet.cad.dat gets my vote. If I'm in a mood to see other's models, I'd like a one-stop place to go. Conversely, lugnet.cad.dat will get left off on my PalmPC's download list, allowing me to use the ram for more lugnet.cad related messages. -gyug (...) (26 years ago, 13-Oct-98, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) Right now it's filtering out all lines which don't have a digit as their first non-whitespace character -- so the only author's notes that make it through are the ones beginning with 0. I was tempted to see if LDLITE would filter this out, and (...) (26 years ago, 13-Oct-98, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) Roit -- Good thinkin'. Also, a separate dedicated .dat area would pretty much eliminate all possible "hmm, should I clutter up the .cad group with my model?" types of inhibitions... --Todd (26 years ago, 13-Oct-98, to lugnet.publish)
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Wow... Fancy server. I would not expect the server to be able to do all of this. But if you can make it do so, more power to you! Sarah (...) (26 years ago, 13-Oct-98, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) Here are my current thoughts on attributes of a lugnet.cad.dat group: The server... 1) ...should reject an article addressed to lugnet.cad.dat which does not contain LDraw .DAT data. 2) ...should reject an article containing LDraw .DAT data (...) (26 years ago, 13-Oct-98, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) Oops -- one mod to that -- it should *require* .DAT data in lugnet.cad.dat, but not deny it in lugnet.cad -- it should *allow* .DAT data in lugnet.cad. Reason: Because some .DAT files won't be models -- they'll be works in progress wanting (...) (26 years ago, 13-Oct-98, to lugnet.publish)
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I was tempted to see if that would work also. I think it would. I'll see if I have a better idea once I think some more about how to do a "Save to Disk". (...) (26 years ago, 13-Oct-98, to lugnet.publish)
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So, I posted a .dat file to lugnet.cad.dat. The article did not come up with the option to run ldlite (using the standard nntp interface), so I'll see if this link will work: <a href="(URL)mudray.dat</a> (26 years ago, 13-Oct-98, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) This seems to works. I don't know if this is what you mean? After installing LDlite and I made sure the .dat extension was associated with LDlite.exe. When I click on the .dat file reference on the web page I am asked if I want to save to (...) (26 years ago, 14-Oct-98, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) I'm gonna have to fiddle some more. One problem may be that I had dat already associated to a text editor. I will delete that and see if ldlite associates properly by itself. Or just keep using Netscape for lugnet.cad.dat. :-) -- Terry K -- (26 years ago, 15-Oct-98, to lugnet.publish)
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Terry K wrote in message (...) I think if you just associate dat with LDlite you will be able to open dat files from IE LDlite installation notes: " LDlite will register itself as the default program for .dat files *if* no other program is already (...) (26 years ago, 15-Oct-98, to lugnet.publish)
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