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Re: Different fonts in webpages
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Thu, 28 Oct 1999 04:46:42 GMT
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John Matthews wrote in message ...
> I see Times New Roman. I have a lot of fonts, but not Papyrus LET.
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> John Matthews
Thanks, John,
I went through a whole bunch of fonts, and the Papyrus font looked really
cool, and I didn't even stop to think if others could see it. Eventually,
I'll have to redo the page... that'll be fun!
--
Have fun!
John
Auctions and Trading and More at my Lego site:
http://www114.pair.com/ig88/
MOC,CA++++(6035)SW,TR,old(456)+++TO++PI,SP+#+++++
ig88888888@stlnet.com & IG88888888 on AOL
> John DiRienzo <ig88888888@stlnet.com> wrote in message
> news:FKAEL6.Mx5@lugnet.com...
> > On this past discussion of fonts, I began to wonder...
> > I looked at the page of common MS fonts, and the main font on my webpage
> > is not listed. Its called Papyrus LET, and the other font I use a lot is
> > Comic Sans MS (which is fairly common, I guess). So, when people look at my
> > main web page, what kind of font do they see? My page looks the way I want
> > it to on my PC, but I am afraid others are seeing something a lot different.
> > The Papyrus font looks a lot like fancy calligraphy and seems appropriate
> > for a Castle page, but it must look like crap with the generic fonts on some
> > systems. If you can tell me what you guys see when you look at my page, and
> > if you think it should be changed, please let me know. Also, on my Castle
> > trading list (which is like 50KB) I am sure removing the fancy font would
> > also reduce the size by 20KB or so because of the way its set up - so I had
> > thought about removing the font for that page before anyway, or splitting
> > the page into a few pages. Lastly, since I never asked, are there any other
> > glaring problems on my page(s)? Thanks for the help.
> > --
> > Have fun!
> > John
> > Auctions and Trading and More at my Lego site:
> > http://www114.pair.com/ig88/
> > MOC,CA++++(6035)SW,TR,old(456)+++TO++PI,SP+#+++++
> > ig88888888@stlnet.com & IG88888888 on AOL
> > Todd Lehman wrote in message ...
> > > In lugnet.publish, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > > > Agreed. I never specify font, only size and face. However I HAVE seen
> > > > people (including here at Lugnet(tm) I think but I could be too wrong
> > > > and too lazy to check, I am in a hotel and paying for my 800# access)
> > > > name off a bazillion font types (helvetica, geneva, ariel yada yada) to
> > > > get one sans serif font and ditto for Times New Roman or its workalikes.
> > >
> > > Changing fonts is playing with fire. It's possible to do it right, but it's
> > > tricky. Some of my rules of thumb:
> > >
> > > 1. The best way to specify a Helvetica-like face is to use
> > >
> > > <FONT FACE="Geneva,Arial,Helvetica">
> > >
> > > in that order. Geneva is the for the Mac, which doesn't have Arial, and
> > > Mac users claim that Geneva looks better to them at small sizes than either
> > > Helvetica or Arial. Arial is only there for Winblows systems. Helvetica
> > is
> > > for non-Winblows and non-Mac systems. That pretty much covers all the
> > > platforms.
> > >
> > > 2. If you want Verdana, it's OK to leave out Geneva and Arial because both
> > > Macs and Winblows are shipping with Verdana these days. Put in Helvetica
> > as
> > > a back-up in case Verdana isn't found,
> > >
> > > <FONT FACE="Verdana,Helvetica">
> > >
> > > and optionally include Geneva if you think someone might be viewing your page
> > > on an old Mac without Verdana and you care what it looks like.
> > >
> > > 3. If you change out of the default serif font -- say, via
> > >
> > > <FONT FACE="Georgia"> or <FONT FACE="Verdana">
> > >
> > > beware that <PRE> and <TT> don't work anymore inside of that <FONT> tag on
> > > some Winblows systems: the text doesn't come out in the default monospace
> > > font (i.e. Courier) but instead comes out in the enlclosed <FONT> face! %^(
> > >
> > > This is broken in both Nutscrape Navigator 4.5 and Internet Exploiter 3.0,
> > > maybe other versions as well. It's a little bit worse in NN than in MSIE,
> > > but it only works correctly in MSIE if you use a virtual font name like
> > > "Times" or "Helvetica" rather than an actual font name like "Times New Roman"
> > > or "Arial".
> > >
> > > 4. Georgia is a really nice alternative to Times New Roman, but, unlike
> > > Times, it looks terrible next to Courier -- the sizes are too different.
> > > (Georgia is a bit larger than Times.) So if you use <TT> or <PRE> on a page,
> > > stick with the default fonts for body text. (Helvetica section headers or
> > > titles look OK though.)
> > >
> > > 5. Verdana only looks good at <FONT SIZE="-1"> or <FONT SIZE="-2">. It's
> > > too thin at the default font size. Unfortunately, if you specify -1 and you
> > > don't specify Helvetica as a back-up, then Times looks terrible at -1. (And
> > > Times looks really terrible at -2.)
> > >
> > > --Todd
> >
> >
>
>
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Message has 2 Replies:  | | Re: Different fonts in webpages
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| (...) There's nuthin' wrong with specifying the Papyrus font, in case someone does have it installed. I'd also specify something more generic ("serif", "sans-serif", "cursive") in addition, so you're sure what the fallback will be. Both Netscape and (...) (26 years ago, 28-Oct-99, to lugnet.publish)
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| (...) If you really prefer that font, why not make the titles in that font into low-bandwith gif files? (Images of text are easy to get down to less than 2Kb.) --Bram Bram Lambrecht / o o \ BramL@juno.com ---...---oooo-----(_...o---...--- WWW: (URL) (26 years ago, 28-Oct-99, to lugnet.publish)
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| I see Times New Roman. I have a lot of fonts, but not Papyrus LET. John Matthews John DiRienzo <ig88888888@stlnet.com> wrote in message news:FKAEL6.Mx5@lugnet.com... (...) webpage (...) my (...) want (...) different. (...) some (...) and (...) had (...) (26 years ago, 28-Oct-99, to lugnet.publish)
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