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Subject:	Re: OT: Anyone know how the Phaeton W12 engine works?
Newsgroups:	lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto
Date:	Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:20:13 GMT
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In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Calum Tsang wrote: > In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Iain Hendry wrote: > > Well. That comes back to the question of "needing" a tachometer. > > > I've noticed that like almost automatics have tachometers. Neither of the cars > > I've owned had/have a tach, and both had/do have a manually actuated gearbox. > > > > I think that's funny. Not that you ever rely on a tachometer to tell you when > > to shift anyway. > > What if, on something like the Phaeton, which, in the words of the reviewer, has > "vault like silence", you don't get that vibration or noise cues? Hence, you > might need to use the tach. > > Calum Actually, that's a good point. A lot of cars nowadays are so quiet at idle, that you really need to check the tach to make sure that the engine IS running. And not accidentally try to start a running engine - the sound of grinding gears is very unpleasant (or so I'm told). I believe some expensive cars have a safety switch built in - so if the engine is running, turning the key to the "start" position will do nothing - to avoid said gear grinding. Speaking of W engines, Volkswagen has the W8 in the Passat, and W12 in the Phaeton luxury sedan. Like Rob said, the W12 is 2 VR6 engines sharing a common crankshaft. So the engine is wider than a V8, but much shorter. The VW folks have chosen to call this layout "W". More info: <http://www.tirekick.com/may02/W8PASSAT.htm> <http://autozine.kyul.net/technical_school/engine/tech_engine_packaging.htm> I'll have some sort of model of the W engine at the Hobby Show this weekend. John

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		Re: OT: Anyone know how the Phaeton W12 engine works?
(...) Wow, they really do use Flubber. So did they do this for a functional reason or just to make an engine that looks like their Logo? I want to work at a company that has the money to throw at screwy things like this. But John, I'll give you (...) (21 years ago, 3-Nov-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

		Re: OT: Anyone know how the Phaeton W12 engine works?
(...) Amen. It took me a week to get used to how quiet the engine is in my car! One of my friends comented on that this weekend at a gas station. (...) Cocky. :) Iain (21 years ago, 3-Nov-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

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		Re: OT: Anyone know how the Phaeton W12 engine works?
(...) What if, on something like the Phaeton, which, in the words of the reviewer, has "vault like silence", you don't get that vibration or noise cues? Hence, you might need to use the tach. Calum (21 years ago, 3-Nov-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

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