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Faster than Chris can say "Seven Layer Burrito" here's the rtlToronto18 Draft Ruleset for February 2005: (URL) think we're pretty much in as much agreement over the main aspects of the rules. However, I need your help to find any potential problems, (...) (20 years ago, 28-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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"rtlToronto18 is a robotics design competition run by rtlToronto, a group for Lego enthusiasts in the Greater Toronto Area. It is the fifteenth such contest in six years and intends to challenge Lego fans to build complex contraptions that solve a (...) (20 years ago, 28-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) You mean like in the last section, entitled "the rules", point 1: <<Robots must be safe-physical safety is required. A minimum distance will be required for audience members from the ropes. If your robot breaks apart while at the top, you are (...) (20 years ago, 28-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Yeah, okay, it's confusing. Blame Chris. (for no reason) rtlToronto3 was the first robotics contest. 18-3 is 15. That's all. Calum (20 years ago, 28-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) In the words of Biz Markie: "Oh, snap! Guess what I saw?" Good catch :) That's what happens when you cut and paste too much. At least I made some nice diagrams. I didn't even have to ask JohnG or JeffVW to do the LDraw...I did those myself! (...) (20 years ago, 28-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) While the concept is solid, I think the math is lacking. With the above numbers, rtl3 would be the 3-3= 0st robotics contest. :) It looks like rtl4 was the first. Ignoring all that my suggestion would be to remove the whole "fifteenth contest (...) (20 years ago, 28-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Now that you mention it, it should be the sixteenth then, shouldn't it? (...) Yeah, that would make more sense... (...) Well, what I read from everyone here was that we shouldn't impose a penalty for NOT sorting, but only to give a bonus to (...) (20 years ago, 28-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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Sorry, I hate to keep beating this horse, but... (...) having a -1 for wrong blocks and +1 for right blocks should (in average) result in a value of zero for people who don't sort. So, there is no color bonus for blocks AT HOME, unless they are (...) (20 years ago, 28-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) No, we need to beat the horse. Beating the horse is part of the process, the discourse is required. Your comments are appreciated. (...) So, scenarios with the posted ruleset for home are: Pile of unstacked bricks in home: No points. Tower of (...) (20 years ago, 28-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Maybe one should start by asking all the people who have entered past block-stacking events... Then, ask Dave if grabbing a 2x2x2 cube is harder than a 4x4x4 cube (used in past events) From my experience, I'd say block stacking is NOT an easy (...) (20 years ago, 28-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Is it possible to make the blocks the other way: TILE BRICK PLATE ?? It makes it easier to handle the blocks as they don't have a significant concavity on the bottom that way. -Rob A> (20 years ago, 28-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) See, trying to keep my head down so as to not rock the boat anymore--but I thought about this after I saw Calums pic and I thought taht what Rob said could work better, so I'll just agree with him. As for the scoring issue--lets see if I got (...) (20 years ago, 28-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Okay, I'll change it. (...) Assuming your roll of the global dice gives you that sample that's 1:1. You could come up lucky and get all your colour just for pushing them in. Anyone else want to weigh in on "no tower creation" Steve is yes, (...) (20 years ago, 28-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) More flip flopping then John Kerry has been accused of on this one. I thought David said it's a block stacking competition, you should get points for stacking blocks. (URL) another note, I don't like the negative score idea personally. I'd (...) (20 years ago, 28-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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Ok, I came up with a loophole over lunch. Here's a slightly new plan: 1) Fabulousi sequence for stacked blocks OF THE CORRECT COLOuR 2) +1 for blocks at home of correct coloUr 3) -1 for blocks at home of wrong coloUr See below... (...) New score: (...) (20 years ago, 28-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Calum Tsang wrote: <snip> (...) I thought of that--what if the opponent gets all 30 blocks onto his square without stacking. That'd be 30 points for him (assuming that there was no wrong colour there) I would have to (...) (20 years ago, 28-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Well, I could have been adamant, but that would have disenfranchesed the voters--i mean the other competitors, and also figuring there was those that can't make a block stacking 'bot but wanted to enter--I was quite adamant that it was block (...) (20 years ago, 28-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I say no. Pushing blocks around is lame. The purpose of the competition should be stacking blocks. Rob (20 years ago, 29-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I agree with Rob. You’re either stacking blocks or you’re not. Pushing blocks is definitely lame. That said, it doesn’t really matter to me because at 8x8x8, I have no interest. (20 years ago, 29-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I've got the headphones CRANKED and am listening to the FULL version of this: (URL) some vain attempt to regain my dwindling youth, DUB DUB, ya'll .---...---new topic---...--- OK, really. someone call me and explain why we FORGET the +1 -1 if (...) (20 years ago, 30-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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So can we make the rule set FINAL? No more changes on scoring? Everyone happy? (....time to start looking for loopholes.... BWAHAHAHAHA...) -Rob A. (20 years ago, 9-Dec-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I think we're more or less settled on this. Calum (20 years ago, 10-Dec-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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