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(...) You mean you had hope that something useful would come from this newsgroup? I guess you haven't been watching very close. (...) That's right. What gives Calum the right to speak his mind? Who put him in charge, anyway? (...) How many examples (...) (19 years ago, 1-Sep-05, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Hi Calum: I’ve done reasonably extensive MOC-modeling, and I’ve written a large number of parts, so I like to think that I’m no slouch re: LEGO-based CAD. However, I’ve never had success with any platform other than the original LEdit. Every (...) (19 years ago, 1-Sep-05, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) "Infuriating" is a rather strong word, but I definitely find all the LEGO CAD systems I have tried suboptimal. Unfortunately I'm a lazy bastard who spends more time thinking about how to solve the problems than actually solving them. (...) I (...) (19 years ago, 1-Sep-05, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, lugnet.cad)
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(...) Exactly. It's easy to mock. I've mocked committees before. Heck, I thought the LPRC was an April Fools joke - and look how right I was about that. (...) But the point of enthusiast organisation committees is that they think they need them. If (...) (19 years ago, 1-Sep-05, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Learnability is one aspect of usability. If you want to use Jakob Nielsen's definition: (URL) others, such as efficiency, memorability or satisfaction, I cannot comment on, I couldn't get past the first one. Error correction I have to say (...) (19 years ago, 1-Sep-05, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) that? :) And you guys laugh at me for making mistakes in assembling Technic models. Calum (19 years ago, 1-Sep-05, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Yes and? (...) Listen, any rtlToronto member will clearly tell you I'm the most administrative of anyone here. I administrate for a living. I just came home from a 10 hour stretch of administrating. :) So don't get me wrong, I believe in (...) (19 years ago, 1-Sep-05, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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Sorry, but WTF? (URL) (19 years ago, 1-Sep-05, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I'm not an active user of Ldraw et al, and haven't been for many years now, but I do maintain an interest. My reasons for no longer being an active user are many and varied, but I wouldn't particularly highlight lack of usability among them. (...) (19 years ago, 1-Sep-05, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) It would be great to see the Bobs return.... and its builder. :) So long as the speed control is working properly, the Bobs is a wonderful model to see in action. So who else is coming? If people would prefer not to publically post their (...) (19 years ago, 31-Aug-05, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, lugnet.loc.ca.on)
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(...) Dave and Alan et al, I know, I know, I already told you I would be "playing",... but could you please also reserve some room for my bud Tilt, who will be bringing some sort of ride (shocking eh?), maybe the return of Bob, or maybe a new one (...) (19 years ago, 31-Aug-05, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, lugnet.loc.ca.on)
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(...) snip (...) I would never disagree with my esteemed rtl associate, but if I can do it, anyone can do it-- (URL) This was a simple one. My truck, as seen on this page (if you scroll down just a tad) was way more involved, yet still quite easy to (...) (19 years ago, 31-Aug-05, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, FTX)
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(...) I think that by usability you actually mean learnability which is somewhat different. I agree that most of the Ldraw CAD tools are not that easy to learn. They do not have dedicated teams to make them so. I think that, at heart, CAD is a (...) (19 years ago, 31-Aug-05, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I can't honestly say they're THAT much better. I've had equal frustration with both the LDraw editors AND LDD. They're broken in different ways. There's been a lot of effort made to repackage the LDraw tools to make them easier to install, to (...) (19 years ago, 31-Aug-05, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) (snip laudatory comments) (...) Let's try quoting the whole thing that I said, shall we, instead of quoting out of context? (...) I stand by what I say, LDD is in my view harder to use, by far, than any of the LDraw editors, at least for (...) (19 years ago, 31-Aug-05, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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Tim Gould wrote: > (...) YES but once again no one has addressed the STEEP learning curve to the novice. thats all. its just that these products are not "intuitive." and just for LAR - everyone has stated that we LIKE the Lxxx products, and serve a (...) (19 years ago, 31-Aug-05, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) b) is a pretty important point for me. I don't have such a large collection and I often get ideas that I'd like to build. I am probably quicker building the CAD anyway and then I can fiddle around with the model in the brick afterwards if I (...) (19 years ago, 31-Aug-05, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Well, in this instance I tracked down the guy whom I was told was responsible for LEGO software development and what he told me was that based on what I had said (complained about) that I would really like the next version. Anyway, I also (...) (19 years ago, 31-Aug-05, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | Re: Reasons to L-CAD (was: Re: Am I the only person who finds Lego CAD systems infuriating?)
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(...) Here's one example, (of many on BrickWiki and elsewhere) where a photo would not be nearly as good, as false colors and schematics really drive the point home. (URL) This sort of illustrating has been used to good effect in presentations (...) (19 years ago, 31-Aug-05, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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