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    SuperTrain 2001 layout —Steve Chapple
   It's after 22:00 at night and I haven't eaten anything since breakfast. (I got carried away with Track Designer...) Here are some shots of what my plan so far is. I've only shown the "left" half since it's over 60' wide - there is another long (...) (24 years ago, 31-Dec-00, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
   
        Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout —Steve Chapple
     If the mountain doesn't take too much time, what's the possibility of something like this... (URL) you up to it James? :-) SRC (24 years ago, 1-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
   
        Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout —John Koob
   That's a large layout, compared to what we've had before. The large yard looks good too. I'm not sure if I understand the incline. Is there going to be a gap between two tables for a two-level bridge? The cross-over idea is great, but the incline in (...) (24 years ago, 3-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
   
        Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout —Steve Chapple
   (...) I've got some improvements to make - I'll post a new one soon. (...) The incline is for the bridge to "cross-over the cross-over". Vertically, there are three tracks in one place. Part of my inpiration was a great 4.5V blue layout that I have (...) (24 years ago, 3-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
   
        Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout —James Brown
     (...) We can incorperate a line going along a mountain ridge without much difficulty. I'd prefer to beg off the elevation changes inside the mountain. (derails...*shudder*) BTW, John - do you still have a NALUG sign built? James (24 years ago, 3-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
    
         Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout —John Koob
      James Brown wrote in message ... (...) Great. (...) I was thinking of a mountain with an open back, but if it's enclosed, you're right. (...) Yup. Don't have a need to rip it apart anytime soon. It's all white and red bricks--two colors which I (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
    
         Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout —Steve Chapple
     (...) How long can you make the mountain? Could you make three or four three foot sections (that would connect to each other)? The tunnels not curving won't matter if the tunnels are long enough, especially with them being so far from where someone (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
    
         Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Mountain —Steve Chapple
     (...) How's this? (URL) line at the top is the main line where most of the train running will be. The bottom line can be run through as the "show loop", but the trains would be going through the curved part of switches, and we all know how much (...) (24 years ago, 5-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
    
         Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Mountain Switching —Steve Chapple
      I'm posting this also in the main trains group in case someone has indeed cut the edge off some switches or found a way to make a switching yard close together like this. I'm going to try an interleaved yard to get the tracks the way I want - I'll (...) (24 years ago, 5-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Mountain Switching —James Powell
       (...) Hacksaw. I think that I have some straights/curves with the required modifications (I know I have some curves, not sure about straights) James (24 years ago, 5-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
     
          Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Mountain Switching —James Brown
       (...) Hmm. I don't think we can pull off a 15 footer, quite. Quick question: How *wide* are our tables? I've been thinking that they're 30", standard banquet table width, but I seem to recall you saying "2 feet" somewhere... (...) One way of getting (...) (24 years ago, 5-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Mountain Switching —Steve Chapple
        (...) Two feet by eight feet (or 6 or 4, but what point is a 2'x4' table?) (...) For the track designer impaired, here's what he's talking about... (URL) nice, but it still doesn't get the tracks any closer together than the standard switch width. (...) (24 years ago, 5-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Mountain Switching —Steve Chapple
       (...) Two feet by eight feet (or 6 or 4, but what point is a 2'x4' table?) (...) For the track designer impaired, here's what he's talking about... (URL) nice, but it still doesn't get the tracks any closer together than the standard switch width. (...) (24 years ago, 5-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Mountain Switching —James Brown
       (...) ? Why do you want the spurs so close together? If there's one thing we *aren't* short of, it's space. Stick with the geometry. Even a space-eating ladder-style yard works just fine. James (24 years ago, 5-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Switching Yard —Steve Chapple
       (...) True - there's no shortage of _floor_ space, and I can always add more tables, but at $1/foot out of my pocket (hopefully reimbursed but no garauntee) I'd like to make maximum use of space. Also, I have to stay within reach of the edge of the (...) (24 years ago, 6-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Switching Yard —Steve Chapple
       (...) I killed the whole morning (I could never do this with a regular paying job) making it, but I've got a switching yard that I like. The overall "industrial end" is 8'x18', with the yard 3' across. (Any wider and we wouldn't be able to reach it (...) (24 years ago, 5-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Switching Yard —Chris Gray
        (...) Er, one of the tracks isn't connected. So, thats 1173 pieces of train track. My guess is about a minute to place each one. Some as little as a couple seconds, but overall, I think that's a not unexpected rate. That's a *lot* of time! P.S. I've (...) (24 years ago, 6-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.trains)
       
            Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Switching Yard —Steve Chapple
         (...) Yeah - I noticed that AFTER I'd posted it - there should be another switch in there, plus there's still more to add to the totals. Between Michel and I we have almost 250 curved segments which should be plenty. Straights are another story (...) (24 years ago, 6-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.trains)
       
            Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Switching Yard —John Gerlach
        (...) A quick suggestion that will save you some time: Pre-assemble your straight track into 4 piece long segments. You should be able to find a box large enough to carry them. That way, when you're setting up at the show, you'll be able to do it (...) (24 years ago, 6-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Switching Yard —Steve Chapple
       (...) (URL) shot is of the "industrial side" with the switching yard and the container, oil and auto depots/yards. The empty spot in the lower corner is for hand-outs - there's a matching one on the "town side". SRC StRuCtures (24 years ago, 6-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Switching Yard —John Koob
       I like your yard, Steve. James' yard was less dense, but it did look nice and tidy. I just realized that there is only one loop of track. With a layout this size, it would make sense to have several things moving around simultaneously. Otherwise, it (...) (24 years ago, 6-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Switching Yard —Steve Chapple
        (...) That's the only thing I don't like about this layout - It's one HUGE loop with tons of sidings. The main "problem" is the three main tracks running the length of the main section. There could be one "loop" for each cross-over, but that would (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.trains)
       
            Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Switching Yard —John Koob
         SRC wrote in message ... (...) Without messing with polarity switching, a simple solution would be to add an extra main line to the center section for a total of four lines. This way, you can have two loops running the full length of the layout. [1] (...) (24 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.trains)
        
             Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Dual main lines? —Steve Chapple
         (...) I've already spent considerable time pondering this problem, but I haven't found a solution I liked. If I were to add a table in the middle and shuffle/squeeze the track on both sides to accommodate a fourth "main" line as you suggest, there's (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.trains)
        
             Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Dual main lines? —James Brown
          In lugnet.org.ca.nalug, Steve Chapple writes: <snip> Steve, Can you bring some hardcopy layouts on Saturday, with some of the different ideas you've had? I'll confess, sporadic opportunity for Lugnet-ing this week, and a lot of ideas getting tossed (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
         
              Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Dual main lines? —Steve Chapple
          (...) I guess - Is everyone going to be there? Might it not be better to post them where everyone can see them? I guess I could both for that matter... SRC (24 years ago, 9-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
        
             Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Dual main lines? —Steve Chapple
         (...) Here's the town, bridge and switching yard as I currently have them. (URL) the moment, my method of running multiple trains is just that - run multiple trains on the one main loop. It's so long that two or three trains can run on it for quite (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.trains)
        
             Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Dual main lines? —Chris Gray
         (...) With a bit of changing, there is certainly room for a small loop inside the town end. So, do we have a time/place for our Saturday get-together yet? Is it out a James'? We had talked about being able to come here, but we might want to be a (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.trains)
        
             Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout prep Saturday? —Steve Chapple
         (...) I would like to put a link to a NALug website in the hand-out... Chris: Is there one? NALug.Graysage.com or Graysage.com/NALug ?? If there's no such thing, can you make something appropriate? Would someone else prefer to be responsible for the (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
        
             Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout prep Saturday? —James Brown
          (...) Ok, official it is, then. :) My place, this Saturday, aiming for noon. I can do a pick up (and drop off)run for anyone who can't otherwise get a ride. On the agenda: barricade making Supertrain layout discussion mountain design general yakking (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
         
              Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout prep Saturday? —Michel Magnan
           Thanks for offering your place James. I might be a bit late, we won't be leaving St Paul until Saturday morning, I'll have my wife drop me off at your door on our way into Edmonton. (James, I misplaced your street address, could you email it to me (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
         
              Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout prep Saturday? —Chris Gray
           (...) Thanks - it's likely easier for someone in town to get both myself and John. What's everyone else's status on this? (...) Sounds good to me. Want me to bring my BURPs? I have a tub of the big ones and a bucket of the little ones. You must have (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
         
              Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout prep Saturday? —Steve Chapple
          (...) Doubtful - The layout is still rather fluid including e-mailing with Calgary. (...) AFAIK the clearance height is fourteen bricks including track. ie. Set the train on some track on a table, and put a stack of fourteen bricks beside it - the (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
         
              Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout prep Saturday? —James Brown
           (...) Hmm. Ok then, I want it enough set in stone that we can start building usefully. I want to know how much room we've got for town (container yard, Octan yard, rail yard, etc) Some of that stuff we can fake, but I really want to be able to just (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
          
               Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout prep Saturday? —Steve Chapple
           (...) Agreed - I think we can get solid enough. The main thing is what mountain configuration to use (so it can be built) right? That part at least we should be able to put in stone. (pun intended) ;-) Whatever I (we) decide on 3 or 4 tracks and (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
          
               Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout prep Saturday? —James Brown
           (...) Yes and no. I definitely want the mountain down, but I'd also really like a solid setting for the town. We can build some things before knowing what space we've got, but a lot of stuff is going to have to wait - it's hard to build something (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
          
               Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout prep Saturday? —Steve Chapple
           (...) The town can be as solid as you want it - I was intending to leave that section pretty much up to you. ie. There's tracks entering it here and here, which should loop back to here and here and the overall dimensions should be this by that. (6' (...) (24 years ago, 13-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
         
              Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout prep Saturday? —Steve Chapple
          I just wanted to publicly thank Michel and James and the rest of NALug for their help on Saturday making barricades for the show next month. SRC StRuCtures (24 years ago, 15-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.trains.org)
        
             Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout prep Saturday? —Chris Gray
         (...) There is nothing there now. The current page is big and ugly. I have no problem with creating one, but I have neither the skill nor the tools to create flashy graphics. Putting up jpg's is easy, and I know enough HTML to make most simple stuff (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
       
            Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Switching Yard —Michel Magnan
        Steve, did James Powell ever send you the layout for his intermodal station? It would be nice to have it on Saturday, to be able to incorporate it into your plans. Michel (24 years ago, 11-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.trains)
       
            Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Switching Yard —Steve Chapple
        (...) An intermodal layout? AFAIK he's sending a bunch of containers and intermodal type sets that James B and I will place as appropriate. I still have to confirm, but it'll probably include my <set:4549> and then after the show, the crane and (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.trains)
       
            Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Switching Yard —Michel Magnan
        Steve, look up (URL)Steve, did James Powell ever send you the layout for his intermodal (...) (24 years ago, 12-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.trains)
       
            Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Container yard —Steve Chapple
        (...) If James P does have a layout for the container yard that needs to be followed, I'm sure I can incorporate it. I'll e-mail him about it... SRC StRuCtures (24 years ago, 15-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Switching Yard —Michel Magnan
       I agree with John, that it would be best if you had atleast two separate loops of track. (I still like Chris' "law" that the continuous loop(s) not run along the branch of a switch.) With a layout that size, if only one locomotive can run at a time, (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Switching Yard —John Koob
        Michel Magnan wrote in message ... (...) To get more trains moving at once, we would have to cut out some of the long sidings in the center to make room for the second loop. IMO, not a problem. "More running locos are better than more stationary (...) (24 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Switching Yard —James Brown
       (...) Yup. A 60' layout is going to look pretty empty with only 1 train. I like (John's?) suggestion for doing 2 loops. (...) Cool. The more stuff we've got, the better. (...) I've got 13 of the longest connector, and a smattering of the smallest 2 (...) (24 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Mountain Switching —Eric Brok
      I cut some of my switches with very satisfying result. I have pictures and will scan them one of these days. Eric (24 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Mountain —Steve Chapple
     I was trying some layouts in my head yesterday after our Saturday get together and realized two problems with the mountain as it stands. (URL) (The cross tracks represent the bridge.) Number the tracks 1,2,3,4 from top to bottom. As of Sat. we had 1 (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
    
         Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Mountain —James Brown
      (...) <snip problems> Yup, we'll have to figure something out - but this and other details have to wait for the big question to get answered: Do we have a 'closed-loop' layout, or an 'open C' layout? That tells us if we need 3 tracks (Michel's rough (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
     
          Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Mountain layout —Steve Chapple
      (...) Well, we're still working on that - this is what I got an hour ago: " It's up to you, you can be either 40 x 20 foot, or 75 x 20ish. With the 40 x 20 foot, it would be easier to keep you near the kid's play area though. " I wrote back that the (...) (24 years ago, 16-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
     
          Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Mountain layout —James Brown
      (...) Hmm. Well, two and a half, but yeah, it's not a 4-sided layout location. There's an easy solution, but it depends on what requirements they have for clearances. If we do a 36x12 layout, that gives us a walkway (4' wide) behind - but the show (...) (24 years ago, 16-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
     
          Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest —Steve Chapple
      (...) From what I've seen, they want fairly large isles - a good idea IMO. (...) "The optimist" doesn't want to get us in over our heads either. ;-) I heard back this morning, and it appears we may be able to get the "best of both worlds". The (...) (24 years ago, 17-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
     
          Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest —James Brown
      (...) Looks like a plan to me. Do you want me to work on some track plans, or have you already got a good idea of the layout? It would be very cool if the town area doesn't need to have 4 tracks in front of it... it doesn't seem like much, but that (...) (24 years ago, 17-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
     
          Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest —Steve Chapple
      (...) Yes I've got the over-all plan much the way I want it, (I'm going to incorporate Michel's idea's as possible) and plan to leave the town area entirely up to you - I'll have something more specific soon. I also just heard back - As I suspected, (...) (24 years ago, 17-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
     
          Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest —James Brown
       (...) Cool. (...) Cool. Even if the blue isn't too high to see over, I think it's OK. As long as it's too high to "accidently" walk over, or push closer, I'm OK. :) James (24 years ago, 17-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
     
          Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest —John Koob
        SRC wrote in message ... (...) Floorplan looks great. Looks like we can fit in two or more loops. :-] Good arrangement of tables as well. What are the dimensions? Idea: Make a track designer template containing only the tables and send it to the (...) (24 years ago, 18-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
     
          Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest —Steve Chapple
      (...) He's still checking on the height (and strength) of the blue barriers, but the overall plan is A-OK. 8-) I will now make a more detailed layout plan and get the town dimensions to James as soon as I can. SRC StRuCtures (24 years ago, 22-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
     
          Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest —James Brown
       (...) Woohoo! :) The mountain as it currently stands is here: (URL) is not to say that it can't change, but that's currently got clearance for all the tracks, and the track sections end exactly on the baseplate lines, which will make it easy to move (...) (24 years ago, 22-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
     
          Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest —Steve Chapple
      This is the overall view with us in the middle of the whole show... (URL) is a 3D view of the tables, though it's not done yet... (URL) here is a screen shot of the layout so far... (URL) will be adding/changing the town on the far right hand side, (...) (24 years ago, 24-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
     
          Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest —Steve Chapple
       Here's a close-up of mountain spacing, with the "incline corner-stone reference" highlighted. I moved the "industrial loop" closer in to (URL) mountain because this way the mountain and loop have a 4'x10' table area. Let's the mountain spread out (...) (24 years ago, 24-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
      
           Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest —Steve Chapple
       (...) track segment by itself is the "show circle" for BigRed if Kevin can get those CP stickers ready in the next three weeks... 8-) SRC (24 years ago, 24-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
      
           Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest —James Brown
        (...) Show circle? Unless Kevin has some objection, I intend to run that sucker! :) James (24 years ago, 25-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
      
           Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest —James Brown
       (...) Whoops! I didn't pay enough attention the first time around... The baseplates should be lined up with the inside, not with the outside of the tracks, if that makes sense - there's an extra 8 studs of baseplate on the outside of this: (TD (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
      
           Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest —Steve Chapple
       (...) Just overlap the baseplates to give the result you want. As long as it fits on a 4'x10' table and the tracks are where they're supposed to be, the baseplates etc. are irrelevant (to me). :-) SRC (24 years ago, 26-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
      
           Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest —James Brown
       (...) Ok. You do know that it won't fill a 4x10 table in either dimension, right? James (24 years ago, 26-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
      
           Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout mountain sizing —Steve Chapple
       (...) Yup - Just didn't want it hangin' over the edge. :-) Any luck finding a grey cloth to give the illusion of the mountain extending up from the floor? That reminds me - How many of those $2 blue table cloths did Michel leave at your place? I (...) (24 years ago, 26-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
      
           Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout mountain sizing —James Brown
       (...) Cool. :) (...) Can do - although not in a fireproof varient, if they're wanting such. (...) I only have 1, unless they're hiding somewhere clever. I'll e-mail him and ask him to bring them in when he drops stuff off on the 7th. James (24 years ago, 26-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
      
           Re: SuperTrain 2001 skirt —Michel Magnan
       I left the 10 packs of white plastic skirting at my parents with the other two blue ones, hopefully I'll have time to dash to Millwoods to pick them up before I go to Sherwood Park to drop off the rest of the stuff. Michel (...) ask (...) (24 years ago, 27-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
     
          Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest - Jan25 —Steve Chapple
      OK - I've got the layout design basically done. Here's what it looks like: (URL) a closer view of the industrial side. Moving clockwise, there is the switching yard, container yard, auto yard, and fuel yard. Michel's cool spring-loaded track ends (...) (24 years ago, 26-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
     
          Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest - Jan25 —John Koob
       Excellent. Great yard. I can't find much to change. :-] If we will be short on straight track, no problem--I am in need of some anyway and could be convinced to place an order. LMK. John SRC wrote in message ... (...) (24 years ago, 26-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
      
           Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest - Jan25 —Steve Chapple
       (...) Whoa - I'd better make a note of the date. ;-) I've added another table to the town for the grain elevator. Here's what the latest town layout looks like. Please note this is my idea and James will probably make wholesale revisions to it... (...) (24 years ago, 26-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
      
           Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest - Jan25 —James Brown
       (...) (URL) is, unless anyone spots something glaring, a final plan. The extra table lets us do a long stretch of highway, and what can be more Alberta than that? ;) John - I'm taking you up on your offer to do a warehouse-like building... if you (...) (24 years ago, 26-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
      
           Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest - Jan27 —Steve Chapple
        (...) Here is the updated town incorporated into the full layout: (URL) couldn't fit the last meter or two onto the screen, but you know what it looks like from the close-up. If someone has excess blue plates they'd like to trade, I'd like to give (...) (24 years ago, 27-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
      
           Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest - Jan25 —John Koob
        James Brown wrote in message ... (...) if (...) Ok. Does anyone have garage door segments that they could loan for the warehouse loading bays? I have enough to make four doors but the segment colors are a mix of clear, red, blue and black. Also the (...) (24 years ago, 27-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
       
            Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest - Jan25 —Chris Gray
        (...) I'm not sure I've ever even *seen* a Lego garage door! I don't know if they are the same slots, but I have some 1 x 4 bricks with straight side slots. 2 red, 4 grey, 4 dark grey, 14 black. (24 years ago, 27-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
       
            Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest - Jan25 —David K. Z. Harris
        (...) I do have some bits that could help...What color(s) do you need for them? I mostly have red, from the old firehouses (see my roundhouse at (URL) have some smaller quantities of other colors... I also have a large number of black and of grey (...) (24 years ago, 29-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
      
           Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest - Jan25 —Michel Magnan
       Looks good James, is there anyway to leave a siding in front of the station, there are several passenger trains on the roster. Perhaps moving the station to the far right, enlarging that loop, and shrinking the loop on the left. Did you try just a (...) (24 years ago, 27-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
      
           Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest - Jan25 —James Brown
       (...) OK. (URL) think this is the final, since yours was the only suggested revision. Good idea, since this gives us a long enough straight stretch in front of the station to actually have a train not stopped on a curve or a switch. James (ps: (...) (24 years ago, 28-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
      
           Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest town —Steve Chapple
       (...) Looks like you've got enough room for two or three stations. I have a retrostation built and available - LMK if you need it. SRC (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
     
          Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest - Jan25 —Michel Magnan
      Looks really nice Steve. You have to stop posting these improved plans, sooner or later I will weaken and take the trip to Calgary to see this in person. It would be the last thing I would enjoy in my life, as my wife would kill me for leaving her (...) (24 years ago, 27-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
     
          Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest - Jan25 —Kevin Maynes
      (...) Just take her with you. There's got to be one or two passable restaurants in Calgary. Bribery will get you everywhere. Hee Hee. KMaynes (24 years ago, 27-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
    
         Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Mountain —James Brown
     (...) I ran across another problem if we have an 'open C' style of layout - we need another bridge. The loop containing your arch can't come back around if our layout is open behind. James (24 years ago, 16-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
    
         Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Mountain —Chris Gray
     (...) That's where the four tracks come from. The way Steve drew it the other night, the main loop crossed over itself on the bridge, which of course implies that it can't be "water" under the bridge. (24 years ago, 16-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
    
         Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Mountain —James Brown
     (...) Hmm. I musta been out of the room at the time... If we're dispensing with the idea of the bridge going over anything, why not just run 3 continuous loops? (or in the case of an 'open C', 2 loops?) James (24 years ago, 16-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
    
         Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Bridges —Steve Chapple
     (...) Quite right - I've got it "covered". ;-) (...) I think you were actually. :-) My original premise was that the bridge was crossing over the cross-over tracks in a larger scale update of my favorite train LEGO train cover photo from the 60's. (...) (24 years ago, 17-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
    
         Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Bridges —James Brown
     (...) I must have been low on coffee to miss this opportunity the other day... Isn't it all just water under the bridge? <GD&R> (...) Keep in mind that if we want to run absolutely everything, we need 16 height clearance on the car loader, and (...) (24 years ago, 17-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
   
        Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout —Steve Chapple
   (...) OK - Here's the latest. I don't think the play area will be that large, but you get the idea. I was origianlly thinking of a three-sided layout facing the play area, but it leaves a huge empty area behind the layout. If I reverse/mirror (...) (24 years ago, 5-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
   
        Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout —James Brown
   (...) the layout to be. Also, if we're about equi-distant from our layout and the play area, we may get involuntarily co-opted into some aspect of play area duty. I think I'd prefer the original horseshoe idea you were working with, backed against (...) (24 years ago, 5-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
   
        Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout —Steve Chapple
   (...) I agree with you on all points, but don't you think 750 sq. ft. with nothing in it but us and our coats will look silly? SRC (24 years ago, 6-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
   
        Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout —John Koob
    SRC wrote in message ... (...) You lost me. How do you come up with 750 sq ft. if the layout is moved away from a wall by a few feet? Perhaps a diagram would help ... -- John (remove the obvious to reply) (24 years ago, 6-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
   
        Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout —James Brown
   (...) Ah, yes. Good idea. Steve, can you do a quick diagram of where you're (theoretically) putting the tables? One for each basic layout that you've done would help a lot, I think. I've been getting confused too. Thanks, James (24 years ago, 6-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
 

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