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Re: NQC in Boston University Linux :)
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Fri, 7 Apr 2000 14:49:45 GMT
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Matthew Miller wrote:
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> Dan Boger <dan@giccs.georgetown.edu> wrote:
> > yah, true... but I'm bad about using rpm anyhow, I end up compiling my
> > own stuff most of the time... I know I shouldn't, but it's a habit I'll
> > have to un-learn...
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> Didn't I lecture you about this before? *grin*
*hide*. I am getting better though - the other day, I removed netscape
from my computer, and did it with rpm -e :)
> > no, even worse... it just stopped, no backtrace - it gave me a warning
> > that it couldn't umount the filesystems, and just sat there. Wasn't
> > hung, but wouldn't go back or retry... had to reboot and make sure I'm
> > not playing in the mounted dir while the install is running...
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> Hmm; I wonder how the 6.0 installer deals with that case. (It's generally
> better about error conditions. (Although, one of the improvements I've made
> is that it auto-retries once if an ftp connection doesn't respond. (Which
> happens just about every time if you pick individual packages, since it
> connects to get the list of packages, then lets you pick, a process which
> often takes longer than the standard ftp timeout. (Although actually, we've
> got a better components set than RH's (IMHO), so there's less need to pick
> individual packages.))))
do you also check for space while choosing? RH has this annoying trick,
when you painfully choose all the packages you want/don't want, then it
sits there, says you need 5 more Megs of space, and you have to redo all
the selections again!
> > yah, I hear some perl/python wars and most of the time the argument is
> > that perl looks like line noise... while it can, it doesn't have to...
> > But I'll prob end up learning python as well, just cause it might come
> > in useful. Is it really that diff from perl? C?
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> The major difference is: perl says "There's more than one way to do it",
> while python says "There is one best way to do it, and here it is."
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> I make the python:perl = indonesian:english analogy on purpose. Indonesian
> is a largely synthetic language, free from confusing things like verb
> tenses, irregularities, and complicated plurals. English is a language which
> happily grows by grabbing anything we think is good from any other language.
> It may not be as logical as Indonesian often is, but it's very very
> expressive, with a lot of room for nuance and flavor. (And quite popular,
> largely because of that.)
(I know nothing of Indonesian) - I thought english was popular cause of
the world conquering conspiracy :) As for perl/python, well, I like
having more than one way of doing things... the quick and dirty
solution, and the incredibly elegant one... and about 50 in between.
That way, my poor little brain doesn't have to come up with the one
great one, it can do with the one-that-is-almost-but-no-quite-so-great
one :)
Dan
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| (...) *grin* good for you. (...) Nope. That'd be too much of a change to the 6.0 installer for me to tackle right now. (The original code is _really_ crufty.) I'll look at this once I start on the next generation. (...) The python folks would (...) (24 years ago, 7-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| (...) Didn't I lecture you about this before? *grin* (...) Hmm; I wonder how the 6.0 installer deals with that case. (It's generally better about error conditions. (Although, one of the improvements I've made is that it auto-retries once if an ftp (...) (24 years ago, 7-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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