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Re: NQC in Boston University Linux :)
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Fri, 7 Apr 2000 04:41:05 GMT
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Matthew Miller wrote:

Dan Boger <dan@giccs.georgetown.edu> wrote:
cool - I just installed it today, as an upgrade, so I didn't notice most
of these... I upgraded the daemons myself as they came out, and wouldn't
let it touch my inetd.conf, so a lot of these would be missed on me.
Still cool.

Yeah -- disabling unnecessary servers is good, but not even installing them
is better. Before, if you wanted the finger client [1], uou had to install
the finger server, which is kinda silly.

yah, true...  but I'm bad about using rpm anyhow, I end up compiling my
own stuff most of the time... I know I shouldn't, but it's a habit I'll
have to un-learn...

the installer didn't crash as terribly, but it did freak out when it
couldn't umount the /mnt/sysimage dirs...  could still be better.

Did it freak out and still let you continue? That would be a vast
improvement from the earlier versions I looked at, which tended to
completely die (w/ 14 pages of python traceback -- real user-friendly, guys)
at any little excuse.

no, even worse... it just stopped, no backtrace - it gave me a warning
that it couldn't umount the filesystems, and just sat there.  Wasn't
hung, but wouldn't go back or retry...  had to reboot and make sure I'm
not playing in the mounted dir while the install is running...

I'm hoping that in a few months, the stability is such that it'll be a good
base for our next release -- the 6.0 code is ugly enough that I want to move
on as soon as possible. If it's not, I may look at using Mandrake's
installer instead.

isn't it RH based too?

I'm in the process of learning python; it seems like a nice enough language.
If only the python zealots weren't so anti-perl -- they're being terribly
unfair. It's not like python is to perl and unix is to msdos/win, but to
hear people talk, you'd think so. (It's more like python is to perl as
indonesian is to english....)

yah, I hear some perl/python wars and most of the time the argument is
that perl looks like line noise...  while it can, it doesn't have to...
But I'll prob end up learning python as well, just cause it might come
in useful.  Is it really that diff from perl?  C?

:)

Dan



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(...) Didn't I lecture you about this before? *grin* (...) Hmm; I wonder how the 6.0 installer deals with that case. (It's generally better about error conditions. (Although, one of the improvements I've made is that it auto-retries once if an ftp (...) (25 years ago, 7-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)  

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(...) Yeah -- disabling unnecessary servers is good, but not even installing them is better. Before, if you wanted the finger client [1], uou had to install the finger server, which is kinda silly. (...) Did it freak out and still let you continue? (...) (25 years ago, 7-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)  

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