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		Re: Gulf of understanding is mutual
(...) Take the Oreos, Cremewiches are where it's at! And how dare you criticize President Bush during a war! You are failing to support our troops, you traitor tot! America, love it or leave it; impeach Earl Warren; reverse discrimination; liberal (...) (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

bruce
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		Re: "gutless" bush?
(...) No. That was resolved 11 years ago. But hey, I was just trying to give you a chance to rephrase your statement before you were jumped all over for such an inviting statement, considering that Bush is initiating the violence. I see the jumping (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

bruce
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		Re: This just came across my desk... Iraqi Questions
(...) Stole it from the Indians (and gave them that awful name, too). In Canada the French stole it fom the Indians, and then had the brits steal it from them (who went on to steal the rest of it from the Indians). Oh, and who's self-proclaimed hero (...) (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

bruce
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		Re: Gulf of understanding is mutual
(...) Look to the Iraq-Iran war for an example. Nationalism can win out over common sense. Happens all the time. Not to mention they hardly trust the motives of the United States (I don't, so why should the Iraqi people?). (...) It's possible, but (...) (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

bruce
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		Re: Gulf of understanding is mutual
(...) The difference between Dubya-Dubya III and Desert Storm may well be that in the latter, the Iraqi soldiers knew they were in the wrong in the first place and didn't have any heart in holding Kuwait. This time it is about defending Iraq and we (...) (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

bruce
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		Re: "gutless" bush?
(...) Begin violence. (...) End violence. (...) No violence.... (...) No violence.... (...) No violence.... (...) No violence.... (...) No violence... (...) Violence, started by the U.S.! Hey this is your sequence of events. "sometimes violence is (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

bruce
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		Re: Rats Leaving the Sinking Ship (Re: Just Teasing...)
(...) This actually sums up a lot of the reasons I oppose this war. It is an unnecessary distraction. Even with UN sanctioning, it is terribly mis-timed. This should not be our focus; this war has diluted our efforts against Al Qaeda at best, and is (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

bruce
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		Re: "gutless" bush?
(...) I don't drive a Hyundai, go ahead! Seoul is the one that requested we show restraint, so I don't have a problem with them eating the consequences. (...) Oh dang, I drive a Mazda. Time to switch to that BMW, I guess. Anime? They are welcome to (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

bruce
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		Re: "gutless" bush?
(...) No John, you said one thing and I called you on it: "sometimes violence is the only way (because the bad guy starts it)." Okay, we started the current violence, so your statement has a certain irony to it. You'd be far better off amending your (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

bruce
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		Re: "gutless" bush?
(...) You weren't paying attention, JOHN: how can the U.S. use a UN resolution as a pretext for war when the UN doesn't back us on it? Yes, the UN shouldn't have passed such a resolution if they weren't prepared to back it up, but we have no legal (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

bruce
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		Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
(...) That doesn't really address the topic at hand (and perhaps that was your intent). -->Bruce<-- (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

bruce
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		Re: Stop speaking in "initial"!!!
(...) I don't speak Initial. I can take a stab at french, I might be able to eventually decipher latin, and given enough time I can figure out what someone from England might be trying to pass off as english, but I don't speak Initial. At least LP (...) (22 years ago, 21-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

bruce
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		Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
(...) "Do not ascribe to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity." -Richard Feynmann (...) The French are upset because of Dubya's stOOpid actions. I'd describe his "diplomacy" as perhaps the worst I've ever seen (and this from a (...) (22 years ago, 22-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

bruce
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		Re: John Leo's opinion of "The West Wing"
(...) Well you seemed to have figured that out (again?? this time?? (1) ) faster than I used to do.. only what, 40-50 posts in that thread between the two of you? Contrast that with me and he(2), we've managed to spin out hundreds of posts in one (...) (22 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

bruce
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		Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
(...) This is all a dodge: you stated that the left hates Bush because he is a Christian, and yet they supported a Christian for president. The evidence doesn't support your theory. (...) So was I. (...) Actually, they get what they want even if (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

bruce
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		Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
(...) Are you saying that Gore isn't a Christian? Quick internet check: Southern Baptist. Oh hey, his favorite movie is Local Hero and TV show is Futurama. Well, alright! Oh, sorry for the digression. So, if what you say is true, then the Left hates (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

bruce
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		Re: Excellent summation of truths and falsehoods about our little war
(...) Hmmmm, I'm find my myself in disagreement about the first three points already... 1: The war it legal (conclusion). What in the world makes a war "legal"? A better term would be "sanctioned", but if the author really likes the other, I can (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

bruce
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		Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
(...) This ia always an interesting quandry. The contract has always been viewed as new-generation-enforcable, but is that correct? Are you bound by your parent's contract (or as far back as necessary to either the original constitution or your (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

bruce
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		Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
(...) You seem to be confusing between choosing from what's available, with having a right to choose from what's available, with somehow expecting that you should be offered whatever happens to suit your fancy. So, yes, I can argue it. (...) I'm not (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

bruce
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		Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
(...) As I said, morally you may be correct, but practically, I see no better way to proceed. It's not an ideal contract, because you are bound by your predessor's contract, not one you made for yourself. I must admit I categorically reject the (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

bruce
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