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Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Mon, 24 Mar 2003 23:33:15 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
> > >
> > > > Then you are doomed to a lifetime of futile frustration and tilting at
> > > > windmills. I already said that morally you may be correct, but practically
> > > > what is the alternative? Society grinds to a halt every time someone is
> > > > born? If you reject the possibility of being born into a contract, then you
> > > > have the ultimate right: modify the contract and accept it or beat feet.
> > >
> > > The problem is there's no free market in governmental systems at the moment,
> > > and the present players collude to keep it that way.
> >
> > That doesn't really address the topic at hand (and perhaps that was your
> > intent).
>
> Sure it does. You can't argue that we have the right of choice if there's no
> free market (of ideas, or of systems) to choose from, except unless you
> argue that we have to lump the choices, constrained as they are by the
> International Conspiracy to keep Libertarian Systems Oppressed(tm), and
> choose from among what's on offer.
You seem to be confusing between choosing from what's available, with having
a right to choose from what's available, with somehow expecting that you
should be offered whatever happens to suit your fancy. So, yes, I can argue it.
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> There's an aw'fly high barrier to entry to starting one's own government,
> after all, as long as we're confined to this one particular location. ALL
> the territory is already under control, and most governments don't take
> kindly to suggestions that they hive off a bit so some other org can try
> their hand at it.
I'm not sure what your point is. Do you mean that no matter where you go
someone was there first, so you are stuck making some "contract" you don't
like? There are countries without taxes and have low populations - just go
inundate them with Libertarians and take over.
-->Bruce<--
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