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Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
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Mon, 24 Mar 2003 06:05:20 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:

...My theory is that the Left hate
the fact that Bush won, that Bush is a Christian, and that they see American
values are swinging to the right.

Are you saying that Gore isn't a Christian?  Quick internet check: Southern
Baptist.  Oh hey, his favorite movie is Local Hero and TV show is Futurama.
Well, alright!  Oh, sorry for the digression.  So, if what you say is true,
then the Left hates Gore for being a Christian, also.

Bush lost the vote last I checked.  Oh, you mean the electoral college is
what he won.  Well, heck, that rotten left, how dare they hate that they won
the vote and it was ignored.  Tyranny of the minority does that.  :-)

American values are swinging to the right: If they were swinging that far to
the right, you wouldn't need to constantly rail against the left, now would you?


The Left is all for tolerance as long as you
tolerate what *they* tolerate-- anything else is met with the kind of vile
intolerance I see for the *person* of George Bush.  It's as evident as them not
even being able to give him any form of respect.  RM and other Lefties can't
even resist the disrespecting Bush's name.  I can sense the hatred from every
"shrub".  It's bigotry plain and simple.

Politicians are born to be hated by somebody.  What amuses me is that you
seem to think it is only that vile left that are capable of hatred.  Clinton
was villified for years by the right.  Bubba, Dubya?  Bigotry?  Maybe.
Ironic hypocrisy on the part of some?  Definitely.


I don't think it can begin with the Israelis and here is why: if the Israelis
refuse to answer terrorist attacks, it merely emboldens the terrorists.  This
is an undisputed fact.  You simply cannot appease terrorists, because they
will always push for more and threaten more violence if their demands aren't
met.

Wait a second there.  Undisputed?  You're just asserting that.  What if I
dispute it?  Or did you mean undisputed by the people who agree with you?

No please, dispute it if you wish.  When or where has appeasing terrorists ever
worked out?

When Israel was formed?  Oh wait, your right: they couldn't have been
appeased 'cause their still at it.

I fear when talking to people who sound like you do, that I'm talking to
someone who belives that our president is without fault.  Do you think it is
possible that Bush and company might abuse their positions of power to
increase their personal fortunes (like every other president has done...I'm
not singling him out)?

Ahh, I think you have reached the *real* issue.  I do believe Bush is a sincere
and honest man.  I believe his intentions *are* pure.  Now, is that because I
am a partisan?  Has Bush given any indication that he is not to be trusted?

You do know that Bush pretends like he never heard of Enron when in fact he
was in bed with them?  Sincere?  Honest?  He's a politician!

What do people say about the man who actually know him, who knew him *before*
he became president?  What is his character as the man he is today?  Is it so
incontheivable that a president might actually respect his position of power
and wield it as honestly as he is able?

Is it so inconceivable to you that no matter how much you may like a
person's politics, they may still not qualify for your hope?


Further, could all of the hatred and contempt for Bush be mere partisanship?

Consider this: I don't think the right is always wrong or doesn't have
legitimate points at times: you, on the other hand, are constantly trying to
demonize the left.  I find it difficult to respect your claims of
partisanship against Bush when you are one of the most active at being
blindly partisan.

Is he being vilified *as a person* by the Left because he doesn't believe as
they do?  Would a Democrat of equal character leading the US into war meet with
such opposition as we have witnessed for Bush?

Johnson.  Dang, maybe it's a Texan thing?

What has Bush actually *done*
to deserve such animosity?  Seriously, could an "idiot" or a "moron" *really*
be able to ascend to the most powerful position the world has ever known?

Yes.  Well, okay, apparently for the Right at least (i.e. Dubya is both the
president and an idiot).  At least the left didn't nominate their
politically connected idiot with the right family name (Teddy!).  ;-)


-->Bruce<--



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  Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
 
(...) Not necessarily. If he believes like a good boy in global warming, abortion, gun control, entitlements, etc,etc, and keeps his (misguided) religion to himself he's okay. I wonder if Bush's favorite TV show is King of the Hill? :-) (...) No, (...) (21 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) Fair enough. (...) Yeah, because I *do* make a distinction between the deadly force perpetrated by both sides. The Israelis desire to root out and kill *terrorists*-- the fact that these cowardly scumbags hide in and among the civilian (...) (21 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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