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		Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
(...) False. Contracts are things agreed to by both parties. I was never given a choice to reject taxes and the attendant benefits. I am no more _morally_ bound by this "social contract" than were the Africans enslaved in the south through their (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
What are the criteria used to determine if an analogy is adequate? No analogy will be perfect because it isn't the exact situation that is being discussed. It is a tool used to point out certain particular similarities that are important to the (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
(...) Modified hypothetical: Let a = whacky terrorist group run by a psychopath. Let b = nuke-bearing dictatorship run by a guy who likes living the good life and pretty evil, but not plausibly insane. Let c = big country that they both hate. So, a (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: America need not apologize
(...) Did you happen to hear all the speeches coming out of the White House for the last year? Maybe someone could explain to me why they referred to SH and the Iraqis multiple times. What do they have to do with anything that is going on with OBL? (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Excellent summation of truths and falsehoods about our little war
A lot of that stuff is still hotly debated, Larry. Those are not precisely facts; and it's not as if Buckley doesn't wear his political leanings pinned to his chest. ::cough:: right-wing::cough:: A lot of it was straw man stuff -- easy targets (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
(...) Well of course many people think we shouldn't have placed the sanctions on Iraq. Of course I'm not sure what they think we should have done to convince Iraq to "play nice". Of course there is a point that perhaps we weren't justified in (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
(...) (URL) didn't because it's too early to know whether there's anything to this. Maybe it's a false alarm... Of course with our great powers of fakery, all part of the Vast Conspiracy(tm), it wouldn't take more than a day or two to knock up a 100 (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
(...) <snip> (...) Palestinian "aggression"? You can't even bring yourself to call it "terrorism". I don't really want to go here, though, because I fear it is an issue of differing perspectives. (...) Agreed. (...) Well, I bet you can guess how (...) (22 years ago, 23-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: This just came across my desk... Iraqi Questions
LET THIS BE CLEAR : I AM NOT CANADIAN. You want to know Canada's opinion on the issue? Well, there is Ontario, who is against a war without the UN, but wishes the US wil win the war. Totally opposite statements. That's Ontario for you. Then there is (...) (22 years ago, 22-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Excellent summation of truths and falsehoods about our little war
Pitched at students, it's still a good summation of a lot of the arguements flying around. It's also a good scorecard you can to use to evaluate the players here and their relative grips on reality. (note that RM fails point 3 badly) (URL) that (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
(...) snip of a little razzle dazzle (And I don't care what movie that song shows up in; I'll always remember Joel Grey singing it on The Muppet Show) Here's something likewise keeping in the spirit of upcoming events: ---...--- Dulce Et Decorum (...) (22 years ago, 18-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes: <snip> Thanks for this cite, David, it's interesting and thought provoking reading. (...) other approach, it isn't always the best choice. Let's assume for this post that it's our problem to solve (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
(...) Not necessarily. If he believes like a good boy in global warming, abortion, gun control, entitlements, etc,etc, and keeps his (misguided) religion to himself he's okay. I wonder if Bush's favorite TV show is King of the Hill? :-) (...) No, (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
(...) Fair enough. (...) Yeah, because I do make a distinction between the deadly force perpetrated by both sides. The Israelis desire to root out and kill terrorists-- the fact that these cowardly scumbags hide in and among the civilian (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
(...) Speaking of trolls... (...) Please cite for me examples in history where the taking out of a capital by a nuclear weapon has been manifestly unimportant in the grand scheme of things. (...) So, let me get this straight-- you assert that the (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Geneva Convention on POW treatment is just another inconvenience to the Iraqi Regime?
From: (URL) this: Iraq's Defence Minister, Sultan Hashim Ahmed, said Iraq would "not harm the captured prisoners of war". "It will treat them in accordance with the Geneva Convention on prisoners of war." with this: An ICRC spokeswoman said it was (...) (22 years ago, 23-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
(...) What I don't get about all this is how much we have failed to appreciate the 11 September 2001 attack and what it could do for us. We were gifted with the opportunity to walk in the other guy's shoes. We were, just for a day or two, knocked (...) (22 years ago, 21-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
John: You really will just argue inanely over almost anything won't you? Frank's post was so reasonable, so even-handed as to almost be void of interesting comment. At face value, and as history has taught us again and again -- taking out a single (...) (22 years ago, 23-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: More on the DPRK
(...) Yes it does help. You're merely being dismissive of the author, writing him off with "nuke 'em all", as if that's what the author is advocating... but I made the mistake of taking your comments seriously, when I pointed that isn't what the (...) (22 years ago, 21-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
(...) What you are failing to place into the Israeli question is Palestinian terrorism. Most if not all of Israeli aggression is in retaliation for terrorism. What is going to bring peace in that region is for the Palestinians to eschew terror and (...) (22 years ago, 22-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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