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		Re: From Reason: "It's all bad news - Chaos in occupied Iraq"
(...) I’ve always thought that this was a silly criticism, true twenty years ago, during the Iran/Iraq war we supported Hussein as the lesser of two evils, you act as if we furnished his palace and rolled out the red carpet. We often have dealings (...) (21 years ago, 7-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Bush-Sharon love fest
(...) NO!, I said it would be a start. Israel is perfectly entitled to defend itself... nothing more! (URL) this>: "The Israeli occupation army and paramilitary Jewish settlers have killed 545 Palestinian children and minors since the outbreak of (...) (21 years ago, 15-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: From Reason: "It's all bad news - Chaos in liberated Iraq"
(...) I assume, across the pond, it doesn't look like what we saw from here but, I assure you, we, the people living down here don't need to read that article to see how "spectacular" it is. It amazes me dearly when I see how naive you Americans can (...) (21 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		arrogant and unrepentant (Re: If you Yankees vote for this guy again...)
(...) I thought the whole tone was that of fawning sycophancy. A bunch of school kids would have been more probing. (URL) Another perspective>: Bush's demeanor was arrogant and unrepentant. Asked on numerous occasions to name things he would have (...) (21 years ago, 14-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: From Reason: "It's all bad news - Chaos in liberated Iraq"
(...) Yup, this is exactly what I expected would happen - remove Saddam's infrastructure and the chief organizing force would be the religious fundamentalists, who will, of course, end up being a bigger threat than Saddam ever was. -->Bruce<-- (21 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: From Reason: "It's all bad news - Chaos in liberated Iraq"
(...) Pretty much what we both felt would be the case. It's a long article, but a fairly interesting one. -->Bruce<-- (21 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		From Reason: "It's all bad news - Chaos in liberated Iraq"
(URL) this article is to be believed we are losing the peace quite spectacularly. (21 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Blair is Right On!
(...) Who? (...) Sure. It was a great speech. Brought a tear to my eye. If only it were all true. We're not uniformly the good guys here by any stretch of the imagination. (1) I dunno about you but viewing some of the Fallujah footage, I kept (...) (21 years ago, 12-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: From Reason: "It's all bad news - Chaos in liberated Iraq"
(...) Here again the age old question, which is worse, stable but evil leaders, or democracy and instability. Similar thing happened in the Philippines, Marcos was corrupt and evil, but his regime was stable. As soon as he was removed chaos ensued. (...) (21 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: If you Yankees vote for this guy again...
(...) To me, the worst part wasn't the press conference, but rather the follow-up reactions from the faithful. CSPAN this morning had a number of callers praising Dubya for his unshaking resolve, while others expressed satisfaction that Dubya had (...) (21 years ago, 14-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: From Reason: "It's all bad news - Chaos in liberated Iraq"
(...) what's that old axiom--"Violence begets violence"? Have fun after storming the castle... Dave K (21 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: From Reason: "It's all bad news - Chaos in occupied Iraq"
(...) Nor does he mention Washington's “inaction” at the time; did the washington not block a UN motion condemning SH? (...) No, some say it is second only to Scottish Haggis. Scott A (21 years ago, 7-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: From Reason: "It's all bad news - Chaos in occupied Iraq"
(...) That very much depends on the body in question! ;) I'll be spending the next few days cycling (MTB) around (URL) and Blair Athol>, if I see a (URL) real one> I'll take it's picture and post it here! Scott A(URL) .> (21 years ago, 7-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: From Reason: "It's all bad news - Chaos in liberated Iraq"
(...) (URL) this> Scott A (21 years ago, 7-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: From Reason: "It's all bad news - Chaos in liberated Iraq"
(...) God this makes me depressed. 1. To think that this is my country, a democratic country, where I must take a certain amount of responcibility for what is being done. 2. To hear a responce from someone being affected by these actions (something (...) (21 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: From Reason: "It's all bad news - Chaos in occupied Iraq"
(...) ...and, like SH, Marcos was supported by Washington. (...) Forgive me, but I don’t remember the Philippines being invaded as part of an illegal and immoral war to remove Marcos? (...) It has been part of the occupation plan to fragment the (...) (21 years ago, 7-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Clearly those Canadians are concerned about censorship...
(...) Luckily, we all have Jerry Springer every day on TV to remind us. Yep, even here in Australia. ROSCO (21 years ago, 9-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Remember to turn off the lights at Legoland California...
(...) This story makes me feel safe from miscreant, drug-addled deviants everywhere. I particularly like this part: (...) snip (...) In essence, "an unidenfied, confidential source" (which in practice is no different from "no source at all") (...) (21 years ago, 12-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: An Alternative..
(...) Official what? (...) Ah - thats what you mean.. cool, agreed! (...) There's no reason why you couldn't use the existing infrastructure as a scaffolding to create a new one. (...) Except that the federal government can close or open any (...) (25 years ago, 16-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Clearly those Canadians are concerned about censorship...
(...) Unfortunately, this is another example of how things are better in Canada than in the US. The episode was "Harbinger," and the relevant scene was edited slightly differently for hosers than for Yanks. Dave K gets all the breaks. If my guess is (...) (21 years ago, 12-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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