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		Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
(...) "Peace cannot be kept by force; it can only be achieved by understanding." Albert Einstein (20 years ago, 30-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
(...) You mean like in Israel/Palestine? Or do you mean like in WW1? Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 31-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
(...) Why bother asking silly hypothetical questions? All the answers are already available on video. (URL) you know kids are to watching the the latest Hollywood has to offer for science class? What do you think of that? Don (20 years ago, 3-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
(...) Boy oh boy. Don't ask me to compute a tip the next time I dine on a Friday afternoon. It'll be hard to see my monitor until after my head-ectomy. The 76% figure came from (URL), in section 4.3. Poor citation on my part. **snip of the rest that (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
(...) Hey, don't attribute to my duplicity what can be explained by my doofusness! (...) I figured I'd let you have one once in a while to keep you interested. 8^) Dave! (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
(...) Well, I was only responding to the question as it was raised in regard to third world "per capita" breeding rates. (...) I don't know that we need to play the "genes" card right off the bat; it sort of implies that "proles naturally breed like (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
(...) Well, part of the reason that people in third-world nations have 10 kids is because 80% of those kids will likely die before puberty. Obviously that's not an inviolable statistic, and just as obviously it's not the only cause of skewed (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
(...) I hate to have to tell you this, but JMS was actually a few decades behind his time! Orwell pegged all of that stuff way back in 1948! I'm not a B5 fan, so I can't comment on the particulars of that series, but it sounds like JMS was offering (...) (20 years ago, 4-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: From Reason: "It's all bad news - Chaos in occupied Iraq"
(...) (URL) Here's> a fun little site (no longer current, but archived) that dissects Ms. Coulter's spew. Worth checking out for anyone mistakes Coulter for a legitimate journalist or worthwhile commentator. Dave! (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
(...) Oh, I don't know, maybe just that I need to get out and see more movies so as I know what yins all are talkin' about. (20 years ago, 4-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
(...) <snip> (...) I was thinking that season 2 thru 4 of Bab 5, specifically regarding President Clarke's assention to power and the corruption thereof, with all the 'homeguard', the 'poli-speak', and the 'if you're not with us, you're against us' (...) (20 years ago, 4-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
(...) Mmmmm. Oil rich countries like Iran and Iraq? And there is no doubt that a great deal of money is paid for natural resources, the question is whether the pricing and process is fair, and whether it leaves these countries better off or not. (...) (20 years ago, 29-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: From Reason: "It's all bad news - Chaos in occupied Iraq"
(...) Even if it is, it is policy (which is my point anyway). (...) Again, this is not our policy. (...) It doesn't. (...) They have more evidence than I, but I'm not sure it even matters to me anyway. (...) He still takes his orders from men, not (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Parsons wrote: <snip> (...) Now this is why I hang out here.. Very nicely stated, Richard. Dave K (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
(...) Are you sure about that? Children have very little labor value in our society, and I still see the have-nots reproducing faster. You've hit ONE reason, but not nearly ALL reasons. (...) Hmm, is that wealth the cause, or the result? Or are they (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
(...) Value systems die very hard. I was speaking primarily about the "third world" (or as we like to call it, the "two-thirds world"), but it's not hard to see that when people come here, the values system that promotes large families tends to have (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
(...) I try to offer alternatives; I can't help it if you are not open to them! Do I have to offer alternatives? I'm not sure I do. Example: If I catch you having sex with your cat; do I have to offer you an alternative in order to suggest you stop? (...) (20 years ago, 29-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: From Reason: "It's all bad news - Chaos in occupied Iraq"
(...) Well, even pictures of Nick Berg's slaughter couldn't have compared with the audio and video portrayal of it. (...) I believe we are talking about rogues, not policy, because that kind of behavior serves absolutely no useful purpose (as an (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
(...) Sorry, I just found it interesting that google returned this link: (URL) the second page of my search for terrorist movie references. Apparently that's where you get all your material. It's got your question, your cigar mag reference, (...) (20 years ago, 4-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
(...) You don't actually have to look to the 3rd world to see the problem. It exists in your own backyard. The have-nots everywhere seem to reproduce faster. The imbalance will always exist, maybe it's programmed into our genes. You can bicker over (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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