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		Re: Why I spoke up -- little issues left alone sometimes become big issues
(...) And this is longer. Steve, you've erected several straw men and then knocked them down. If you want to spar with me, disagree with what I say directly, please, or at least what is actually a valid inference from what I said, instead of trying (...) (26 years ago, 13-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Fixing the world (was Re: Ldraw cannon
<F3KMny.FDD@lugnet.com> <F3Lxqn.GrG@lugnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Moz (Chris Moseley)" wrote: Deliberately inflammatory reply by me follows.. (...) That's claptrap. Normal people are (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Fixing the world (was Re: Ldraw cannon
<366E0FD1.67876FA4@c...OSPAM.com> <3664BF87.5043@writeme.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) This is a subtle point but an important one. Life is a series of choices and trade offs. Every waking (...) (26 years ago, 11-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Bennett IS unworthy of being used as toilet paper
(...) If you took all clone purchasers and boiled them alive, TLG's competitors would go bankrupt and it would be good for AFOLs (assuming what's good for TLG is good for AFOLs). I just said that, but do I actually advocate it? Of course not. But it (...) (19 years ago, 6-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: The Guardian unworthy of toilet paper?
(...) Really? "Abort all black babies and cut crime, says Republican". That doesn't come off as a proposal? Please. (...) Therein lies the rub-- "accurate". (...) That's my whole point, Lenny! It is a non-story. The "story" comes as a result of the (...) (19 years ago, 4-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: The Guardian unworthy of toilet paper?
(...) Not at all! In fact, I state that the rag is even unworthy of smearing:-) JOHN (19 years ago, 4-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: The Guardian unworthy of toilet paper?
(...) Here's (URL) the audio> And the transcript: CALLER: I noticed the national media, you know, they talk a lot about the loss of revenue, or the inability of the government to fund Social Security, and I was curious, and I've read articles in (...) (19 years ago, 4-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Bennett IS unworthy of being used as toilet paper
(...) Boiled down, Bennett did indeed say "Abort all black babies and cut crime." You can slap qualifiers on it such as he said it might be morally reprehensible, but I think his very statement was pretty morally reprehensible regardless on a rather (...) (19 years ago, 5-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Bennett IS unworthy of being used as toilet paper
(...) And LEGO won't say it. Why? They would find it morally reprehenisble. Just like they are not going to say that if all black babies were aborted and LEGO wouldn't have to make non-yellow minifigs. Maybe that would be true, but they wouldn't be (...) (19 years ago, 6-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Bennett IS unworthy of being used as toilet paper
(...) It's a self-portrait, so he has no one to blame but himself. (...) We are getting somewhere at last. :-) (...) Followed by immediate regression. Since you admit that you are biased, how do the claims you are making have any validity? Not to (...) (19 years ago, 8-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Screw Abstinence?
(...) For one thing I did not condemn them for supporting the choice of abortion. There is absolutely no condemnation there at all. As I stated I fully support legal abortion so I would be stupid to condemn someone who does so too. Your argument (...) (19 years ago, 6-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Bennett IS unworthy of being used as toilet paper
(...) Because he is neither the idiot nor the racist he's painted to be. (...) Fair enough. (...) Well, yes, because I know of him and know his politics, and so I know that the charges against him are baseless. As far as "defending Bennett to get at (...) (19 years ago, 7-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: The Guardian unworthy of toilet paper?
(...) Bennett should have said "the crime rate would go down if you aborted all babies." The absurdity would have been more succinctly demonstrated, and he would have avoided any perception of racism. The fact that he explicitly singled out an (...) (19 years ago, 4-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Screw Abstinence?
(...) Oh? I didn't think that was what was desired. I could believe that there are some out there who would be in favor of it, but I think in general, they're talking abortions within the first few months of pregnancy. Correct me if I'm wrong, of (...) (19 years ago, 6-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: The Guardian unworthy of toilet paper?
(...) Am I correct in seeing another fallacy here, not necessarily one on Bennett's behalf, but more of one in general? That being that it is instead economics that drives or motivates crime, not race as Freakonomics seems to put forth and that then (...) (19 years ago, 4-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Bennett IS unworthy of being used as toilet paper
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote: s to say it. (...) I doubt it. He chose a racist example to make his point. (...) He didn't he have an inkling? Okay, he is an idiot then. Racist, idiot: I don't see why you would bother to defend either. (...) (19 years ago, 6-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Screw Abstinence?
(...) Perhaps I am, now that you mention it. But then I would still phrase it this way: NARAL supports (def 7b at (URL) YourDictionary.com>) the right of reproductive choice. As a result, NARAL supports the right to have an abortion if one so (...) (19 years ago, 6-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Can this guy get any more infuriating???
(URL) Bush, in a high-profile address on Thursday, said the global fight against terrorism must continue in Iraq because it is where terrorists are centering their war on humanity. "We're facing a radical ideology with an unalterable objective, to (...) (19 years ago, 6-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate) !

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		Re: Screw Abstinence?
(...) Oops—my bad. I misread you, and I see now that you were criticizing the choice to hold the "Screw Abstinence" event rather than condeming anyone. My apologies. (...) I beg your pardon, but the specific application of language is hardly using (...) (19 years ago, 6-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Screw Abstinence?
(...) Again, your selection of words is questionable. NARAL supports a system that allows for reproductive choice. It's true that choice may allow for abortion, but it also allows for non-abortion; why do you condemn NARAL for one avenue of choice (...) (19 years ago, 6-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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