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		Re: THIS is why this whole war is a waste of time. - NO ITS NOT - GO BUILD SOME LEGO!!
(...) You're on the right track, but (if you'll forgive me) I think your assessment misses the real problem. Bush and Ashcroft and Cheney and the rest (and Clinton et al, to be fair) know EXACTLY what rights are, and that's why they're working so (...) (22 years ago, 10-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: THIS is why this whole war is a waste of time. - NO ITS NOT - GO BUILD SOME LEGO!!
Terry is 100% right. One thing though: the details of the anti-war side are hard to discuss because every point is at least a sub-argument. Nothing is a given because some things remain speculative because the only available knowledge is outside (...) (22 years ago, 10-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: State department report on Saudi Arabia's Human Rights record
(...) Good one, Lar -- now you're in step with the program. We should certainly be looking into any possible human rights violations on the part of any country with a lot of oil. Timing it closer to the events of 911 would have been better in my (...) (22 years ago, 3-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
Orion: I believe we have both the means and the intelligence (spy-style intelligence) to go after A.Q. (a well-known terrorist organization that claims at least some part in the WTC disaster and that has few, if any, sympathizers) -- but we do not (...) (22 years ago, 17-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: State department report on Saudi Arabia's Human Rights record
(...) Perhaps once Iraq's oil has been securred, the house of Saudi will be sidelined? ;) Scott A (22 years ago, 3-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		State department report on Saudi Arabia's Human Rights record
(URL) US is not papering over that SA is run by a bunch of thugs. Whether more will be done about it remains to be seen. (22 years ago, 3-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		In the name of freedom
Iraq - In the shadow of war: backlash against human rights (URL) the military action by the USA, UK and their allies began in Iraq on 20 March, a backlash against certain human rights has been witnessed around the world. These include: * attacks on (...) (22 years ago, 31-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Age limitations
(...) I'm familiar with this argument, it's a false alternative. Yes, language changes. No, I won't take a centuries old dictionary, but I think I can learn more from an older dictionary than the muddle that is Random House today. The first purpose (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Megan's Law, and its implications
(...) As one of the people suggesting that everything can be treated as a property right, I would like to point out that I don't think that compensation is the sole remedy. Certainly people who demonstrate an inability to restrain themselves need to (...) (22 years ago, 10-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Newsbits: Defense Contractors and Water Barons
"Advisors of Influence: Nine Members of the Defense Policy Board Have Ties to Defense Contractors" (URL) How elected officials and registered lobbyists apportion your money. This would be why we must fear the military industrial complex (perhaps our (...) (22 years ago, 29-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Outrageous Iraqi Geneva Convention Violation
Don't drag the gun debate into this or you'll get responses like the following, which will derail the thread. (...) No, actually, assuming you're a law abiding citizen otherwise, with a healthy respect for the rights of others, and you've been (...) (22 years ago, 25-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Religious bigotry = Patriotism, say State Representatives
(...) Yeah, there's slightly more to the story... a history really... (quickie summary) Sounds like back in December there were a bunch of quasi-protesters who decided they'd walk around the mall at Christmas time wearing peace/anti-war garb, just (...) (22 years ago, 5-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
Weeks said: (...) Then Neal said: (...) Isn't the basis of your faith a struggle between the good and bad out to achieve their own goals? I my world view self-interest is a given. It is the moving force behind every human action since the beginning. (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
(...) Rather than simply asserting that it is not a contract, you must demonstrate why it is not a contract. You can't just say "it's a dodge" and pretend to have refuted it. (...) The slaves who were freed (and thereafter remained in the US) (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		An interesting find
(URL) funny thing is that the actual bill of rights has been missing since January 20, 2001. Dave! (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: An interesting find
(...) Err, I think he's referring to the stolen election being the sign that the Bill of Rights are done for (missing since inauguration day) in our country. He's wrong, of course. The Bill of Rights was trampled on way before that. I keep trying to (...) (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: An interesting find
(...) No, if I'd chosen 9/11/01, you'd likely have inferred it to be a claim that al Qaeda was responsible for trashing the bill of rights. And it's not sour grapes, by the way--the actions of Jeb and Harris prior to the 2000 election, not to (...) (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: This just came across my desk... Iraqi Questions
(...) I've said before that France is hardly morally clear on this matter, since they're motivated at least in large part by their past financial investment in Iraq, as well as promised contracts for future oil rights. So, to that end, you're (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: The nature of property (was: Idiots, Part Deux)
(...) First, your stance seems to assume that notions like 'competent,' 'fraudulent,' and 'fully informed' are binary in nature and that a person is on one side or another of a clearly demarked line. I don't think that's so. Second, It's still my (...) (22 years ago, 23-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
(...) Does anyone know why? Lets see; no right to fair jury, no right to language translator, no right to legal counsel, and you can be imprisoned in any country the court chooses. This applies to civilians as well as military personel. I don't (...) (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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