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		Re: The partisian trap in California
(...) You can link until the cows come home, but it really proves nothing. Nada. The best you can hope for is that Bush believed intelligence that suggested that WMD still existed (assuming that they indeed don't) and he was wrong. Nobody can prove (...) (21 years ago, 6-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
snip (...) The first phrase of the first amendment: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,..." (...) I consider myself a Christian and I am sick of hearing this nonsense. (...) (...) (21 years ago, 6-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) No we are talking about legal marriages. That is very much the jurisdiction of the first amendment. (...) The silly notion that Christianity is somehow superior to our government and other religions. (...) Well you were talking about legal (...) (21 years ago, 7-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Art? or Theft? or just signs that NPR is damaged.
(...) No, as in meaning that your opinion that there is a problem that needs to be dealt with is not shared (currently) by the various managers involved. (...) Prosecute: no, I'm not conceding that, except as a consequence of the artist not bowing (...) (21 years ago, 12-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: The 1st....
(...) Seems pretty cut and dried to me. What rights did the posters purchase from the owner of the publishing venue (the owner of the privately owned BB)? Assuming the owner is in the US that's all that matters, posters nationality is irrelevant. (...) (21 years ago, 29-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: And now for some fluff after all the heavy conversations...
(...) What?! Yeah thats not a violation of his constitutional rights or anything. (...) Agreed. (...) Ok that picture was just messed up. This calls for... -General Insanity (URL) (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Bush AWOL
(...) When you combine this with (URL) you get part of MAD magazine's article: MAD's Deck of 52 least wanted Americans. One of which is the 2004 Democratic presidental nominee: Whether it be Al, Bob, Joe, or Rick, you want a loser take your pick. (...) (21 years ago, 15-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Iraq (was Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap)
(...) And we discussed this before--and you added addendums to the idea of "whole people" to not include those that are too young, old, infirm, or mentally unstable. Did you also stop to consider that, in context of the day and age, that "whole (...) (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) Perhaps I was too light in my characterization. While I think that brother/sister unions are deeply taboo, I also believe that they are pathological, and that their "wrongness" possibly stems from genetics. (...) I have to believe that God is (...) (21 years ago, 15-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Iraq (was Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap)
(...) I agree if there were laws or even constitutional rights that caused the deaths of innocent life I would be all for removing them too. Of course removing the right of law abiding citizens to have weapons does not reduce the crime rate, even (...) (21 years ago, 23-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Iraq (was Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap)
(...) Not at all. You would be 100% correct as to the meaning at the time of ratification. But collectively, the 13th and 14th Amendment gave freed slaves the status of Freemen. Knowing precisely what that meant, many freed slaves had to obtain guns (...) (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Iraq (was Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap)
(...) You didn't say anything new in there at all, Mike. Lets have a looksee-- " Are you joking? “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” What (...) (21 years ago, 21-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Iraq (was Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap)
(...) Did you even read that cite again? Read the whole 3 message thread please: **From Bouvier's Law Dictionary and Concise Encyclopedia: POSSE COMITATUS. These Latin words signify the power of the county. Or yet again in other words: the power of (...) (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Iraq (was Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap)
(...) It hasn't been amply settled. You are not a well regulated militia by any standard of those words. It's a point you consitently avoid--you and others cut right to the "the rights of the people to own guns shall not be infringed" Further, you (...) (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Misleader and the Gay Apocalypse
First just go and see it: (URL) A Band of Brothers: The Rebuilding of Iraq (URL) Recent estimates now put the final figure somewhere between $200 billion to as much as half a trillion dollars over the next ten years. America's Iraq-sticker-shock may (...) (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Detroit's woes, unaddressed by the Dems
(...) Yes, of course they do. And that's not always a bad thing except when it gets kinda rabidly slanted a particular way. I try to post stuff that is at least semi-objective from a huge variety of sources. Sure, some of it is just (...) (21 years ago, 30-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Information War (actually re: seriously)
(...) I would vigorously dispute that. In fact I already have, and the person I disputed them with was satisfied that what I was getting at was that Richard acknowledge that he erred, acknowledge that he doesn't get a pass because he's an Angry (...) (21 years ago, 4-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general, FTX)

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		Re: Those who cast the votes decide nothing.
(...) In what sense? (...) In what sense? (...) He has power, but no athourity. He lost the argument a long time time ago, and ever since has relied on "might-makes-right". MLK Jr: "Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided (...) (21 years ago, 8-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Those who cast the votes decide nothing.
(...) What is your implication? That he isn't a "good man"? Are you so partisan that you can't even give credit where it is due? (...) His complete lack of civility. I don't care if he believes Bush is the Devil (which he probably does BTW); he is a (...) (21 years ago, 8-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Babes Against Bush
Well, stumbled across this website (won't post link due to +PG13ish nature, but if you're so interested, I'm thinking you're pretty intelligent to go off and find link yourselves...) Anywho, 'Babes' are rallying against Dubya--and here's their 99 (...) (21 years ago, 9-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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