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Re: Essay on Emerson vs. Thoreau; civil disobedience
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Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:31:36 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Frank Filz writes:
Shiri Dori wrote:

Hey guys,

I'm enclosing something I wrote for my English class, just a little food for
thought.

Ya, Shiri, what Frank said! Thanks for sharing. I don't have the personal
experience with the environs of Thoreau and Emerson that Frank does, but you
can be sure that this "work within the system" vs. "we need active
revolution/active resistance NOW" dichotomy is something almost anyone who
thinks a particular society is seriously off the beam needs to wrestle with.

My own compromise is that I work within the system but state to myself, and
to others that I feel need to know, that doing so does not imply my sanction
(the US government, for example, although better than many, does not have my
"consent").

Is that as effective as revolt? I think it is more so in most cases, and
that's Emerson's point.

There are some systems that are *too* egregious and which the right thing to
do is go down fighting. (The Warsaw Ghetto uprising comes to mind, although
discussing the system they were fighting means I "lose" the debate, which is
OK :-) )

Knowing when that line is crossed is part of being civilised. Timothy
McVeigh did not get that line right, for example. Not anywhere close.

++Lar



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(...) While I tend to be on the side of "work within the system" over "revolt", I am glad that some people feel so strongly about their cause they are willing to go to jail for it. In fact, I am glad about this even when I don't agree with their (...) (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) One of these days I really must read this play, since it is significant to me on many fronts. The play is definitely a commentary on the US, but is also an interesting window into my own faith of Unitarian Universalist as both Thoreau and (...) (24 years ago, 28-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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