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Re: Essay on Emerson vs. Thoreau; civil disobedience
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Wed, 31 Jan 2001 22:06:22 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Eaton writes:

I think maybe it's the very commonly cited consequence that you can't judge
someone else's morality as inferior by an objective standard that I have an
issue with, as that is unacceptable.  But if it's an immutable consequence,
then the premise is unacceptable as well.

And why is that?
1st off, relative morality (in my book) says that you COULD measure someone
morally, but the objective standard dictates to measure them against their
own personal standard.

Right, I understand that concept. I just don't find it valid. Because I
don't accept relative morality.

I.E. you can only judge someone as 'truly' being
moral or immoral by knowing their 'true' moral code, and how accurately
they've followed it.

2nd, assuming that you'll blow that off as impossible and thereby useless
(dunno if you would or not), are you suggesting that it is necessary to
judge someone against a universal moral code?

Yes.

Or are you saying that you
just want to be able to judge others, regardless of the standard?

I don't think that's what I am saying, but since I haven't provided a
derivation for universal morality I guess that might be the net effect.

Regardless, I have judged others in the past and will continue to do so in
the future.

++Lar



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  Re: Essay on Emerson vs. Thoreau; civil disobedience
 
(...) Ah, ok. So what you're objecting to is specifically my method of moral judgement, instead proposing that some unspecified (at least at present) yet universal code is a better tool for judging morality, and that you have at least some inkling (...) (24 years ago, 31-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Essay on Emerson vs. Thoreau; civil disobedience
 
(...) Ah, then ok. I'm fine with that. Just so long as we make sure to clarify that the 'right' in MMR isn't a moral right. The only problem being, though, that while theoretically true, it's not the case in reality, only because human moral codes (...) (24 years ago, 31-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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