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Re: Essay on Emerson vs. Thoreau; civil disobedience
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Wed, 31 Jan 2001 22:06:22 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Eaton writes:

> > I think maybe it's the very commonly cited consequence that you can't judge
> > someone else's morality as inferior by an objective standard that I have an
> > issue with, as that is unacceptable.  But if it's an immutable consequence,
> > then the premise is unacceptable as well.
> 
> And why is that?
> 1st off, relative morality (in my book) says that you COULD measure someone
> morally, but the objective standard dictates to measure them against their
> own personal standard.

Right, I understand that concept. I just don't find it valid. Because I
don't accept relative morality.

> I.E. you can only judge someone as 'truly' being
> moral or immoral by knowing their 'true' moral code, and how accurately
> they've followed it.
> 
> 2nd, assuming that you'll blow that off as impossible and thereby useless
> (dunno if you would or not), are you suggesting that it is necessary to
> judge someone against a universal moral code?

Yes.

> Or are you saying that you
> just want to be able to judge others, regardless of the standard?

I don't think that's what I am saying, but since I haven't provided a
derivation for universal morality I guess that might be the net effect.

Regardless, I have judged others in the past and will continue to do so in
the future.

++Lar



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  Re: Essay on Emerson vs. Thoreau; civil disobedience
 
(...) Ah, ok. So what you're objecting to is specifically my method of moral judgement, instead proposing that some unspecified (at least at present) yet universal code is a better tool for judging morality, and that you have at least some inkling (...) (26 years ago, 31-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Essay on Emerson vs. Thoreau; civil disobedience
 
(...) Ah, then ok. I'm fine with that. Just so long as we make sure to clarify that the 'right' in MMR isn't a moral right. The only problem being, though, that while theoretically true, it's not the case in reality, only because human moral codes (...) (26 years ago, 31-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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