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Re: Essay on Emerson vs. Thoreau; civil disobedience
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Tue, 30 Jan 2001 05:03:42 GMT
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Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> 
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Frank Filz writes:
> > Shiri Dori wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hey guys,
> > > 
> > > I'm enclosing something I wrote for my English class, just a little food for
> > > thought.
> 
> Ya, Shiri, what Frank said! Thanks for sharing. I don't have the personal
> experience with the environs of Thoreau and Emerson that Frank does, but you
> can be sure that this "work within the system" vs. "we need active
> revolution/active resistance NOW" dichotomy is something almost anyone who
> thinks a particular society is seriously off the beam needs to wrestle with.
> 
> My own compromise is that I work within the system but state to myself, and
> to others that I feel need to know, that doing so does not imply my sanction
> (the US government, for example, although better than many, does not have my
> "consent").
> 
> Is that as effective as revolt? I think it is more so in most cases, and
> that's Emerson's point.

While I tend to be on the side of "work within the system" over
"revolt", I am glad that some people feel so strongly about their cause
they are willing to go to jail for it. In fact, I am glad about this
even when I don't agree with their point of view (so long as the action
they take to get put in jail is mostly passive/non-violent). These folks
are the ones who really get us thinking about the particular cause.

In a day or two, I will have some specific ideas on working within the
system rather than against it since I was called for jury duty today and
seated on a jury. The trial is not finished yet so I can't comment on it
yet, but I will have some comments since the particular subject gave me
cause to examine my feelings deeply.

Frank



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(...) Ya, Shiri, what Frank said! Thanks for sharing. I don't have the personal experience with the environs of Thoreau and Emerson that Frank does, but you can be sure that this "work within the system" vs. "we need active revolution/active (...) (26 years ago, 29-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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