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Re: Essay on Emerson vs. Thoreau; civil disobedience
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Eaton writes:
> > 1st off, relative morality (in my book) says that you COULD measure someone
> > morally, but the objective standard dictates to measure them against their
> > own personal standard.
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> Right, I understand that concept. I just don't find it valid. Because I
> don't accept relative morality.
> ...[snip]...
> > 2nd, assuming that you'll blow that off as impossible and thereby useless
> > (dunno if you would or not), are you suggesting that it is necessary to
> > judge someone against a universal moral code?
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> Yes.
> ...[snip]...
> Regardless, I have judged others in the past and will continue to do so in
> the future.
Ah, ok. So what you're objecting to is specifically my method of moral
judgement, instead proposing that some unspecified (at least at present) yet
universal code is a better tool for judging morality, and that you have at
least some inkling as to what that code is, and that it necessarily involves
not enslaving others. Did I get that right?
If so we can throw out the 'might makes right' issue, I think, only because
it's simply further derived from relative morality. In essence, I have to
ask, if you DID accept relative morality, would you STILL disagree with a
government's decision to choose slavery as valid when 99% of its members
thought it was moral (not simply not immoral, but moral)?
Anyway, suffice to say that my interpretation of your moral judgement with
repsect to a universal standard has the potential to be wrong. More of a
minor clarification in case of misunderstanding-- I don't mean to say that
you are MORALLY wrong to place moral judgement on people according to a
universal standard, but that I'll think that your judgement has the ability
to be incorrect. But I'm saying that just so you don't think I was calling
you immoral for judging people that way-- I'm just saying you're wrong :)
DaveE
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