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Re: Essay on Emerson vs. Thoreau; civil disobedience
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Eaton writes:
> > If so we can throw out the 'might makes right' issue, I think, only because
> > it's simply further derived from relative morality. In essence, I have to
> > ask, if you DID accept relative morality, would you STILL disagree with a
> > government's decision to choose slavery as valid when 99% of its members
> > thought it was moral (not simply not immoral, but moral)?
>
> I can't accurately answer that hypothetical. It's indeterminate since I
> don't accept the premise and have so much trouble trying to hypothetically
> accept it that it clouds any possible analysis I could do. I would tend to
> say no, the 1%stops it (but I am measuring against a non relative standard
> there, and further, if you turn the example around a bit you get an outcome
> where you can't stop bank robbery because 1% of the population finds it
> acceptable, which is a screwy outcome). Some hypotheticals are fundamentally
> flawed??
I guess what I'm stumbling over is trying to figure out why you think/feel
that morality has significance beyond a personal level. What is the
justification/point/meaning of you judging me (or my morals)? Whether it's
a personal standard or an as-yet-unspecified universal standard, how can
judging someone morally contribute to anything beyond personal opinion?
James
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