Debate : 4871


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Re: Trying to understand —Frank Filz

(...) The reason for opposition of gun registry comes down to what the purpose of the 2nd amendment is presumed to be, that of assuring that the populace can be armed as a defence against an out of control government (an understanding which I agree (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Trying to understand —Dave Schuler

In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Frank Filz answers: (...) Okay, that makes sense. My error was that I was perceiving an analogy between gun registration and, for instance, dog licensing or car registration. The difference, if I understand it now, is (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Trying to understand —Bruce Schlickbernd

(...) Amendment II A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. Rereading this, I'm not quite sure where I agree with your stated purpose of the 2nd (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Trying to understand —Mike Stanley

(...) It may say that to you now, looking back on things from a modern high school American history perspective, but it didn't mean just that when it was written. Think about the people involved in writing the first batch of ammendments and what (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Trying to understand —Dave Schuler

(...) Very true. In addition, the 2nd Amendment was written when the latest in firearms technology took quite a while to reload. Even today, I understand the concerns of some citizens who feel they must have their guns to protect themselves (against (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Trying to understand —Susan Hoover

(...) Assuming you really *aren't* trolling, have you tried visiting (URL) and following a few links? You might particularly look at (URL) and (URL).[1] [1] IANTNRA, but I have friends who are. (24 years ago, 15-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Trying to understand —Mike Stanley

(...) Dunno, I've never belonged to the NRA and never will. I personally believe most of the people who spout NRA rhetoric like it is gospel about as discriminating as people who believe Rush Limbaugh speaks nothing but the truth. Speaking of Rush, (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Trying to understand —Scott Edward Sanburn

Mike, (...) Scott S. ___...___ Scott E. Sanburn-> ssanburn@cleanweb.net Systems Administrator-Affiliated Engineers -> (URL) Page -> (URL) Page -> (URL) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Trying to understand —Bruce Schlickbernd

(...) Hedonist and Libertarian Tom Leykis is #1 in LA area (that includes far right Orange County). Not that I'd know either way - my 8 year old likes Radio Disney over either of those two. ;-) Bruce (24 years ago, 15-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Trying to understand —James Brown

(...) Only radio I ever listen to is CKUA(1). Good mix of music, and a stunning lack of talk shows... I wonder if that has anything to do with 50+% of their budget coming from listeners? <grin, duck> James (URL) getting paid for this --> (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Trying to understand —James Brown

(...) Well, that came out wrong... :/ Next time I'll put the footnote *after* the sig, instead of in it. (24 years ago, 15-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Trying to understand —Larry Pieniazek

(...) In what sense? I could name off a number of things but shan't. (...) Ouch. I've listened to that, it's mind rotting even in small doses. (24 years ago, 16-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Trying to understand —Steve Bliss

(...) (the following is not intended to slight Bruce's child, or an 8 year old's taste in radio entertainment) Blech. We used to listen to Radio Aahs, which was a very cool station for kids, small and large. We even toured the Radio Aahs broadcast (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Trying to understand —Todd Lehman

(...) Hey, I remember that station! About 5 years ago I heard a great song -- it sounded really really old, maybe from the 50's -- and the lyrics went something like, "Don't play with Bruno...Bruno is a dweeeeeb!" I never figured out whether it was (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Trying to understand —Steve Bliss

(...) Hmm. That sounds familiar. Had a 50's sound, recommended against playing with that dweeb, Bruno. It rings a bell, but I can't remember for sure. I'd be willing to bet the song was pro-tolerance. (...) Oops, my bad. I assumed Disney snarfed (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Trying to understand —Ed Jones

In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Todd Lehman writes: [snip] (...) Ah, I can see it now, Todd blaring Kermit's the Rainbow Connection while sorting Auczilla for shipment. Or programming to it. I see new hues in the future for Lugnet. :') (24 years ago, 16-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)

Re: Trying to understand —Ravi Mohan

(...) Let me guess my crisal ball tells me lime green-or was that the sandwhich i left in my pocket last week 8-) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)

Re: Trying to understand —Dave Schuler

(...) Ugh! Good heavens that "Friends" theme is an awful song! The Rainbow Connection, however, is pure brilliance, far in excess of the current Muppets tripe (in my view, at least!) Dave! (24 years ago, 16-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Trying to understand —Steve Bliss

(...) It's better when you're listening to it with small children. You just ignore the lyrics and dance around. Or is it the music you don't like? Whatever. I never *claimed* that my taste in music was well-aligned with anyone else. (...) They never (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Trying to understand —Dave Schuler

(...) My apologies--I wasn't attacking your taste, just expressing (a little sharply) my own. Perhaps the fact that the song was played 40 or 50 times an hour during its peak has soured me on it... (...) 'Nuff said! Dave! (24 years ago, 16-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Trying to understand —Steve Bliss

(...) Doncha hate that? When MTV first started, I used to be a continual watcher. It was something new, they (mostly) played really cool music, whatever. The beginning of the end (for me) was when they first thought "heavy rotation" would be a good (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Trying to understand —Dave Schuler

(...) I think I started to lose interest when their programming day consisted of Yo! MTV Raps interspersed with episodes of Club MTV. Not my type of music, if such it may be called... Dave! (24 years ago, 17-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Trying to understand —John Neal

(...) I live about a mile from where the studio used to be. (...) Yes, it was a fantastic radio station. We used to get up every morning to that song "G-Good Morning" (I wish I knew who sang that and how I could get a copy of it). My kids were at (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Trying to understand —Steve Bliss

(...) What is the building used for now? Is it still owned by CBC, or is it serving a different master? (...) Was that song with the rooster crowing? It had a great mix of stuff. Sophie B. Hawkins, the Rembrandts, Yacko, Wakko and Dot. Something for (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Trying to understand —Mike Stanley

(...) Yeah, well, all that really proves is that just like people will watch trash on television they'll listen to it on the radio. (24 years ago, 16-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Trying to understand —Scott Edward Sanburn

Mike, (...) OK, Mike, what do you think is non-trash? Just curious. Scott S. ___...___ Scott E. Sanburn-> ssanburn@cleanweb.net Systems Administrator-Affiliated Engineers -> (URL) Page -> (URL) Page -> (URL) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Trying to understand —Todd Lehman

(...) Rush Limbaugh's evil twin cousin Lush Rimboy is always good for a laugh or two. --Todd (24 years ago, 16-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Trying to understand —Bruce Schlickbernd

(...) two. (...) Oh, I'm sorry, I was about to say that Lush Rimboy's evil cousin Rush Limbaugh is always good for a laugh or two. ;-) Bruce (admittedly, I have a low opinion of all talk radio, not just Rush) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Trying to understand —Scott Edward Sanburn

(...) Well, I don't know who Lush Rimboy is, but some people here at Lugnet give me a laugh or two, at their interesting comments. Scott S. ___...___ Scott E. Sanburn-> ssanburn@cleanweb.net Systems Administrator-Affiliated Engineers -> (URL) Page (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Trying to understand —Mike Stanley

(...) Music. I like music on the radio. Or useful advice shows, like the Money Game. I can do without the pseudo-preaching Dave Ramsey does, but I respect that he has his beliefs and a hugely successful syndicated show, so he can do what he wants. I (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Trying to understand —Scott Edward Sanburn

Mike, (...) I don't listen to music on the radio anymore. I have around 85 minidiscs full of the music I like, since I can't stand most secular music nowadays. (...) Well, with all the bashing I received lately, it isn't a big deal. I am tired of (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Trying to understand —Bruce Schlickbernd

(...) the (...) of (...) Hmmmm, well, I would have thought that the High School perspective would be that we needed guns to overthrow existing governments that got out of hand, so what do I know? :-) I was actually responding from what I perceive to (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Trying to understand —Larry Pieniazek

This point has been debated here before. It turns on the intent of the authors. I can't cite the particular Paper, but the Federalist papers speak to this point. It also turns on the meaning of "well regulated" (and of Militia) which many hold not (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Trying to understand —Bruce Schlickbernd

(...) I'll clarify my point if it was a little murky: Frank stated the purpose of the 2nd amendment was for the populace to keep the government in check (or words to that effect). That may have have been in part what the 2nd amendment is about, but (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Trying to understand —Larry Pieniazek

(...) I'll again go back to what was written in the federalist papers. I plowed through them a few months back, so it's a fairly recent memory... I can't deny that there may have been other motives than the final check but that was the biggie, by a (...) (24 years ago, 18-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Trying to understand —Lindsay Frederick Braun

(...) There's also that "hostile foreign Powers" thing too, considering that the early United States simply didn't have the money to maintain a large standing army or navy, and wouldn't until the 1850s. Until the 1830s, invasion from Canada was a (...) (24 years ago, 18-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Trying to understand —Bill Farkas

(...) Technological superiority would not necessarily guarantee victory in a "Red Dawn" type scenario - whether the aggressor were foreign or our own gov't. Afghanistan/Russia demonstrates that (Viet Nam also). If a people have the will to fight (...) (24 years ago, 19-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Trying to understand —Larry Pieniazek

(...) While I am convinced Janet Reno is a murderer, and I can easily and with a clear conscience condone firing back when I am fired upon first, by men hiding in a hiding place within my own compound, with no warning or prior notice (Waco and Ruby (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)