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Re: Trying to understand
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Date: 
Thu, 16 Mar 2000 05:09:52 GMT
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lpieniazek@noveraSPAMLESS.com
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This point has been debated here before. It turns on the intent of the
authors. I can't cite the particular Paper, but the Federalist papers
speak to this point. It also turns on the meaning of "well regulated"
(and of Militia) which many hold not to mean what we moderns think they
do.

Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:

In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Frank Filz writes:

The reason for opposition of gun registry comes down to what the purpose
of the 2nd amendment is presumed to be, that of assuring that the
populace can be armed as a defence against an out of control government
(an understanding which I agree with, unlikely as it seems that it would
ever occur (1)). The problem with gun registration is that then the
government knows where all the guns (supposedly) are when they decide to
start depriving us of our rights and start confiscating guns.

Amendment II

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the
right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Rereading this, I'm not quite sure where I agree with your stated purpose of
the 2nd amendment.  I'm sure that it has that effect, but its purpose was not
to act as a safeguard against an out-of-control government.  It speaks more of
a lack of a standing army and being a frontier country (at the time) than
anything.

Bruce

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(...) I'll clarify my point if it was a little murky: Frank stated the purpose of the 2nd amendment was for the populace to keep the government in check (or words to that effect). That may have have been in part what the 2nd amendment is about, but (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) Amendment II A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. Rereading this, I'm not quite sure where I agree with your stated purpose of the 2nd (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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