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    True Right Wing Fascists —Scott Edward Sanburn
   To All, There has been a lot of what I would call name calling, I admit I am guilty of it as well, and a few posts of this really got to me, especially the right wing religious fascists. Last night, on the History channel, they had a program about (...) (25 years ago, 18-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: True Right Wing Fascists —Mark Rendle
     Isn't "Right Wing Fascist" redundant? -- Mark Rendle rendle99@hotmail.com "Scott E. Sanburn" <ssanburn@cleanweb.net> wrote in message news:388476A5.EE261F...web.net... (...) (25 years ago, 18-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: True Right Wing Fascists —Selçuk Göre
       Mark Rendle <rendle2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:FoJEuB.23x@lugnet.com... (...) I'm not a native English speaker, so sometimes I can't get some sentences true, but If I'm getting what you are saying correctly(1), you are just right about (...) (25 years ago, 18-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: True Right Wing Fascists —Jeff Thompson
       (...) Yes. Redundant = unnecessary duplication. Using two things where one would be enough. However, I think that totalitarianism comes in both right-wing and left-wing flavors, so I don't see the redundancy in the term "right-wing fascist." Both (...) (25 years ago, 18-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Redundancy (was Re: True Right Wing Fascists) —Christopher L. Weeks
      (...) Redundant is saying the same thing twice - typically in different words. An example is "that _big_ truck was _gigantic_." Chris (25 years ago, 18-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: True Right Wing Fascists —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) That's two trolls I've spotted from you, timestamped within 32 minutes of each other. You might want to review the charter of the group. (25 years ago, 18-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: True Right Wing Fascists —Dave Schuler
      (...) There are two more, too: I found 3780, 3781, 3782, and 3783. Not to mention that he misquoted Bowie. Dave! (25 years ago, 18-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: True Right Wing Fascists —Larry Pieniazek
       (...) The outrage! 50 lashes with a wet noodle. I don't care for his politics 100% but that man(? or whatever he is :-) ) has never been afraid to take chances artistically. Ziggy is on my 20 best albums of all time list. (25 years ago, 18-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: True Right Wing Fascists —Richard Franks
      (...) This is turning into a lynch-mob! (...) Well in that case I'll find a sturdy branch.. Richard (25 years ago, 18-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: True Right Wing Fascists —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) At last, an artistic sentiment that Richard and I can agree on! But lynching's a bit much, though. (25 years ago, 18-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: True Right Wing Fascists —Dave Schuler
       (...) Maybe we can lynch him with a wet noodle, thereby combining your sentiment and Richard's... Dave! (25 years ago, 18-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: True Right Wing Fascists —Larry Pieniazek
        (...) We've all got to stop *agreeing* like this or people will talk. (25 years ago, 18-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
       
            Re: True Right Wing Fascists —Jasper Janssen
        (...) *whisperwhisperconsp...uswhisper* See Larry. See Larry act innocently. Larry acts innocently. See Larry up to no good. Larry is up to no good. See wet noodel. The Noodel is wet. See sturdy branch. The branch is sturdy. See sturdy branch with (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: True Right Wing Fascists —Richard Franks
       (...) Heh :) I don't have anything against Mark though. Lurking in this newsgroup and listen to us prattle on argumentively about nothing is enough to drive *anyone* to a few chosen comments. We've probably been trolling him! Richard (25 years ago, 18-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: True Right Wing Fascists —Richard Franks
      (...) :O We agree on a lot more than just that.. but the differences define us, so to speak. Richard (25 years ago, 18-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: True Right Wing Fascists —Jasper Janssen
     (...) If you think all right-wingers are fascistic, you need to get your head serviced. And no, the fascistic system of thinking is not necessarily right-wing. From Merriam-Webster: (...) See how that compares to Stalinist Russia. (...) And by this (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: True Right Wing Fascists —Jeff Thompson
     (...) Good. Similarly, I hope that the experience of being lumped in with other less pleasant groups for your views will grant you some sympathy for, say, environmentalists, not all of which are "worship the earth as our godess" pagans. -- (...) (25 years ago, 18-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: True Right Wing Fascists —Scott Edward Sanburn
     (...) That's great. (...) (I had to type this twice now, since Netscape crashed) I have never said that *all* environmentalists are worshipping earth pagans. I remember saying some are, however. I think it is funny, though, that extremists that are (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: True Right Wing Fascists —Dave Schuler
      Scott: (...) True enough--I hadn't thought of that before. I've heard environmentalists referred to as "radical" or "fringe" before, but those words seem somehow to have a different resonance... Dave! (25 years ago, 19-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: True Right Wing Fascists —Bruce Schlickbernd
      (...) I've heard and read "Environmental Extremists" plenty of times, if only because it alliterates. Radical, fringe, zealot, and fanatic all carry perjorative images in any case. Bruce (25 years ago, 19-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: True Right Wing Fascists —Bruce Schlickbernd
      (...) I've seen it any number of times in the "standard" media. Both in the "liberal" Los Angeles Times and the "conservative" Orange County Register. Bruce (25 years ago, 19-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: True Right Wing Fascists —Scott Edward Sanburn
      (...) Interesting. I guess I am too used to "liberal" news sources, which I try to stay away from, for the most part. Scott S. (25 years ago, 19-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: True Right Wing Fascists —Jeff Thompson
      (...) Right. And some christians are nazi fascists. You don't like being lumped in with them - that's all I'm saying. It's important to recognize the shades of distinction and not address people as if they represented all that was wrong with a (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: True Right Wing Fascists —Selçuk Göre
      Scott E. Sanburn <ssanburn@cleanweb.net> wrote in message news:3885CFB4.9FF04C...web.net... (...) I think this bias mentioned above is a virtual one, and it is mostly in your thoughts. I live in a country, which ruled by Islamic fundamentalism for (...) (25 years ago, 20-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: True Right Wing Fascists —Scott Edward Sanburn
     Selcuk, (...) Well, it is there, I have seen enough of it. < snipped Turkey info > (...) Well, I was talking about the US mainstream media, for one. I have hardly any information about Turkey, since you are the resident expert. Scott S. (...) (25 years ago, 20-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: True Right Wing Fascists —Christopher L. Weeks
   Since I guess this is partly my fault... (...) [snip] (...) Is it not a matter of scale? If I believed that you and they were both fascist-like but you were less so wouldn't I be as justified as you are by believing that they are at all? (Just to be (...) (25 years ago, 18-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: True Right Wing Fascists —Scott Edward Sanburn
   (...) Hmmm... I think religious views and where you stand politically are two different things. The people in the program. They used their own religion (Aryan church, if I remember right) to spread their fascist statements / racist. etc. I am not (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: True Right Wing Fascists —Jasper Janssen
   (...) Why, that is totally betraying the Aryan philosophy and everything Adolf Schicklgruber stood for! (just doing my bit to provide remarks _really_ irritating to neo-nazis. Don't use without police protection nearby, and I will _not_ accept the (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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