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Re: Brad - TLC needs to minimize packaging
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Wed, 29 Dec 1999 20:03:59 GMT
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Frank Filz wrote:
> > Frank Filz wrote:
> > > Well, I don't think it would be any easier to hose 1000 loose balls than
> > > 1000 boxed ones, but it would certainly do less damage to the product,
> > > however, the hose really should be aimed at the teenage jerks who play
> > > ball in the toy store aisles...
> >
> > Trying not to take this out of context or anything, when you say hose,
> > are you saying store, as in storing the balls? I am slightly confused &
> > perplexed on my own, not by you or anything, I think I need more
> > coffee.....
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> In your original statement, you said "hose" when I assume you meant
> "house". I was just making fun (sorry for being off-topic...)
Oops, I did. Ugh, I can't wait to go to bed tonight! :)
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> > >
> > > > > I also see some value in legislation which kicks us in the pants to
> > > > > clean up our act. I wonder where minorities would be today without all
> > > > > the civil rights legislation?
> > > >
> > > > Well, I hate to say this, but environmental regulations versus civil
> > > > rights legislation is, in my view, two totally separate things. Treating
> > > > humans equally is a universal right, mandatory environmental
> > > > regulations, with inane or outdated laws, is debatable, and clearly an
> > > > overreach of power of the federal government.
> > >
> > > True, but many of those civil rights laws infringe just as much on
> > > Liberatopia as environmental laws.
> >
> > Really? What ones are you referring to? If you are referring to
> > Affirmative Action, I would agree to a point. There are two points from
> > that, 1) You can't discriminate an the basis of race, etc. The 2nd one
> > set up the affirmative action, where you have to have x slots just for
> > minorities, or a certain percentage. That is not right, in my book.
>
> To a pure Libertarian, laws telling you that your store must serve
> anyone regardless of race (ect), are an infringement of the store owners
> rights. I agree with this basic point, which is why my statement of
> wondering where we would be without such laws. How could we have
> improved the lot of minorities without laws _forcing_ people to deal
> with minorities. From a pure rights oriented point of view, these laws
> are just as bad as "quota" laws.
Hmm.. that is interesting, I don't know how Libertarians would view
that. I never thought that the first part was bad. I will have the great
Larry P. on that one... I think the market would support any person with
funds to pay, regardless of that, or the ability to work.
> Of course I have also seen evidence that society will correct problems
> in dealing with minorities when the market is sufficiently free to
> expose the true economics (costs and benefits). I have heard my manager
> at IBM state that while he _personally_ finds homosexuality
> distasteful, he would fully support IBM's initiatives to be more
> friendly to the gay population. Reason: pure economics. The gay
> population has a lot of money to spend, and the market has proven that
> they are willing to spend more of it on products from gay friendly
> companies.
Well, I also find homosexuality distasteful, a sin in the sight of God
(We have been over this in debate before) as I believe and read in the
bible, but I don't care what you do in your bedroom, wherever you find
love, as long as you get special privileges for it. I also will never
consider it normal behavior. Alas, that is another debate. If IBM thinks
they can find a market for that, good for them. I now some people won't
want to support them for that same reason. I don't know what being more
friendly to gays means, however.
Scott S.
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| (...) Yea, sounds like you need some sleep, or you need to bow down to the great Larry more so you don't make as many misteaks... (...) Things like benefits for domestic partners, having personel policies which state that the company doesn't (...) (25 years ago, 29-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) In your original statement, you said "hose" when I assume you meant "house". I was just making fun (sorry for being off-topic...) (...) To a pure Libertarian, laws telling you that your store must serve anyone regardless of race (ect), are an (...) (25 years ago, 29-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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