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(...) I'm not sure I'd say that it needs him so much as would be better off *with* him than without, particularly if 'without' means bad press. (...) You *are* expressing an opinion, but that wasn't my point there. The "the most off base comment" (...) (20 years ago, 23-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) But do you agree that the statment "The customer is always right" is a good theme to strive for, but not law? Anybody (IMHO) that thinks that that statment is true must have never worked with customers IRL. (...) Who is to say what the right (...) (20 years ago, 23-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oh, I totally agree-- I just don't think Dan tried as hard as he should have in this case. (...) Nobody, really. If Dan thinks the "right way" is to ban everyone whose name gets drawn out of a hat, who's to say that's the "wrong way"? I think (...) (20 years ago, 23-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why? What is so wrong with trying to convince Dan that the action was overblown? If we all gave up an just took what was given to us, that wouldn't say much for us. -- Tom Stangl *(URL) Visual FAQ home *(URL) Visual FAQ Home (20 years ago, 24-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) As a buyer/seller on ebay, Amazon and Bricklink I want the admins to protect me from individuals which don't respect the ToS. If a chap on ebay has a feedback rating of "-2" as a buyer on ebay would you bid on his auctions? Scott A (20 years ago, 24-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Now that's just ridiculous. While I would understand your concern if his TOS violation was in regards to non-payment or non-shipping, let's face it, it wasn't. It was about a particular policy which hadn't been clearly enough spelled out until (...) (20 years ago, 24-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) down while (...) BL buyer (...) entirely (...) mistakes (...) to protect (...) his TOS (...) it, it (...) enough (...) No. He showed that he thought he could dictate the ToS. I want to be protected from that sort of mind-set. (...) ebay would (...) (20 years ago, 25-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Is there even the slightest shred of evidence for this statement? (...) Are you suggesting that he should pretend contrition even though he did nothing wrong? Chris (20 years ago, 25-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yes, his own words: "Dan informed me yesterday that I needed to remove that wording as it's a ToS violation. I responded with a suggestion for a different approach." Later: "...I responded rather tersely, suggesting that the implementation be (...) (20 years ago, 25-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm not sure from your writing if you simply don't know what dictate means or if there is some less transparent explanation for your mischaracterization of the events that you accurately quoted. Maybe you can shed some light on this? Chris (20 years ago, 25-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) To be fair, his response was "How about you implement bulk correctly instead? Seems a better solution to me." (according to Dan). That doesn't suggest that ToS be altered, rather that (as Lar saw it) a feature be (re-)implemented correctly. (...) (20 years ago, 25-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I confirm that was the exact wording. Too terse? Yes. Refusing to abide by the ToS? No. Asking that it be altered? No. (20 years ago, 25-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm not clear on what the distinction is; was he not suggesting a change in the way BL operates rather than bring his listing within the ToS? Does that not imply that he wanted the ToS changed? Or do you mean he wanted the wording to remain (...) (20 years ago, 26-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Chris, if I'm so wrong, maybe you could tell me what you think. Scott A (20 years ago, 26-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Do you feel that your intial listing was outside of the ToS? If not, why change it? I find it notable that neither you or Dan have posted your full e-mail exchange. I know from personal experience and the testimonials of others that you (...) (20 years ago, 26-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Does "suggesting a change" really seem to you to be the same as "dictating?" Seriously? Maybe you think it's just a matter of spin, but your first (unfounded) claim is simply incorrect (based on all the evidence I have) and your most recent (...) (20 years ago, 26-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) OK. Show me your evidence. (...) Indeed, he wanted it his way. He suggested* /dictated* / demanded* / intimated* / decreed* / commanded* / requested* / ordered* that the world should spin just the way he wanted. (*) Delete as appropriate. (...) (20 years ago, 26-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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