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Re: Atrocities far away (Was: Art?)
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Date: 
Thu, 30 Sep 1999 17:23:10 GMT
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Sproaticus wrote:

You know my stand on this -- we must intervene because we're in a "brother's
keeper" position.  Yadda yadda yadda.  Old argument.

Yep, and you know mine too, we're NOT our brother's keeper but certain
levels of Evil require intervention by governments, as they are a
disease that may spread... lower levels of evil require that governments
not block people volunteering to do something about it (cf. the
volunteers in the Spanish Civil War).

I just don't know where the line is.

Art like Mr. Libera's is valuable if it makes us think about that.

Case in point:  We're involved in the human rights conflict in Indonesia.
If we hadn't, the problem may have made an impact on the economy of the
region, threatening our trade status with China, Japan, Australia, etc.

Good example. I'd say that is the wrong reason to intervene because it
basically says that the government is bailing out (in advance) companies
that do biz there and you know my stance: Leave the border and the gov
has no obligation to protect your rights.

Plowed ground, I know.

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(...) It's interesting, then, to note that the Chief Executive of our government has so much invested overseas, e.g. China. I'm sure he had little real influence over our involvement in East Timor, but one has to wonder sometimes... (...) Pretty (...) (25 years ago, 30-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) You know my stand on this -- we must intervene because we're in a "brother's keeper" position. Yadda yadda yadda. Old argument. It's an interesting question, though, about the U.S. feeling guilty for our "mismanaged entry" into WWII. We almost (...) (25 years ago, 30-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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