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Subject:	Re: left-leaning pantywaists in Britain (Re: So are they prisoners of war or what?)
Newsgroups:	lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date:	Mon, 4 Feb 2002 12:30:23 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes: > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Lawrence Wilkes writes: > > Given the amount of debate here following Sept 11th, I am surprised this hasn't come up in this forum before. > > > > Are the al-Qaida suspects detained at the Guantanamo Bay Naval Base being treated fairly? > > > > And if the US is at war with terrorists, are they prisoners of war? > > > > lawrence > > Lawrence > You are nothing but a left leaning pantywaist! Below are two views on this > issue which I read at the weekend: > > From the New York Times, Jan 29 > ==+== > Following the standards of the Geneva convention, a treaty signed by > Washington and properly ratified by the Senate, does not require coddling > violent enemies of the US. It simply requires applying America's proud > standards of justice to them. > ==+== > > From the Anchorage Daily News, Jan 28 > ==+== > So some of the left-leaning pantywaists in Britain think the Taliban killers > ...are being mistreated. Bug out, you British wimps. Where is Margaret > Thatcher when her country needs her? ...The British complainers should save > their compassionate concern for the underclass of London, Birmingham, > Manchester and other metropolitan areas ...the poor live in depressing, > ratinfested neighbourhoods- and who would welcome clean clothes and living > quarters and enough to eat every day. > ==+== > > So the US press does talk about this... And totally misses the point, though the first one about standards of justice stares it in the face and still misses it. The point is whether they are being treated better or worse than American citizens accused of similar crimes would be (I have now been convinced by the Red Cross inspection that their situation is acceptable), why the American citizen amongst them is not being held with them and whether he is receiving a better standard of treatment where he is. (I am very dubious indeed about this, and particularly the message it sends) There has still been very little comment from any Americans on this thread, is it because those on Lugnet find the U.S. actions indefensible? If so I wish they would say so.

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		Re: left-leaning pantywaists in Britain (Re: So are they prisoners of war or what?)
(...) I invite anyone better informed to comment on this, of course: It's my understanding that Walker has committed crimes different from those committed by the other detainees. Since Walker is a citizen, for instance, he is able to commit treason (...) (22 years ago, 4-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: left-leaning pantywaists in Britain (Re: So are they prisoners of war or what?)
(...) (URL) That's a pretty interesting discussion of lawful combatants versus al-Qaeda. Personally, I'd like for the determination of "lawfulness" of the combatants to be made by a judge or somesuch, because then it would be "official" and written (...) (22 years ago, 4-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		left-leaning pantywaists in Britain (Re: So are they prisoners of war or what?)
(...) Lawrence You are nothing but a left leaning pantywaist! Below are two views on this issue which I read at the weekend: From the New York Times, Jan 29 ==+== Following the standards of the Geneva convention, a treaty signed by Washington and (...) (22 years ago, 4-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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