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Re: left-leaning pantywaists in Britain (Re: So are they prisoners of war or what?)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Simon Bennett writes:
> And totally misses the point, though the first one about standards of
> justice stares it in the face and still misses it. The point is whether
> they are being treated better or worse than American citizens accused of
> similar crimes would be (I have now been convinced by the Red Cross
> inspection that their situation is acceptable), why the American citizen
> amongst them is not being held with them and whether he is receiving a
> better standard of treatment where he is. (I am very dubious indeed about
> this, and particularly the message it sends)
I invite anyone better informed to comment on this, of course:
It's my understanding that Walker has committed crimes different from
those committed by the other detainees. Since Walker is a citizen, for
instance, he is able to commit treason against the US, but the average
Al-Qaida member is not similarly able. Therefore, Walker can be arrested
for treason and therefore tried in the US, while non-US citizens cannot be
so arrested. Further, as a US citizein, Walker's crime is also an offense
separate from that of the other detainees; the detainees engaged in war
against the US, while Walker engaged in treason.
> There has still been very little comment from any Americans on this thread,
> is it because those on Lugnet find the U.S. actions indefensible?
Indefensible? No, but it's easier to rage about a perceived injustice
than it is to defend wartime incarcerations in legal terminology, since none
of us here is a specialist in international wartime legalese.
Dave!
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