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Re: left-leaning pantywaists in Britain (Re: So are they prisoners of war or what?)
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Mon, 4 Feb 2002 15:54:09 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Simon Bennett writes:

And totally misses the point, though the first one about standards of
justice stares it in the face and still misses it.  The point is whether
they are being treated better or worse than American citizens accused of
similar crimes would be (I have now been convinced by the Red Cross
inspection that their situation is acceptable), why the American citizen
amongst them is not being held with them and whether he is receiving a
better standard of treatment where he is. (I am very dubious indeed about
this, and particularly the message it sends)

  I invite anyone better informed to comment on this, of course:

  It's my understanding that Walker has committed crimes different from
those committed by the other detainees.  Since Walker is a citizen, for
instance, he is able to commit treason against the US, but the average
Al-Qaida member is not similarly able.  Therefore, Walker can be arrested
for treason and therefore tried in the US, while non-US citizens cannot be
so arrested.  Further, as a US citizein, Walker's crime is also an offense
separate from that of the other detainees; the detainees engaged in war
against the US, while Walker engaged in treason.

There has still been very little comment from any Americans on this thread,
is it because those on Lugnet find the U.S. actions indefensible?

  Indefensible?  No, but it's easier to rage about a perceived injustice
than it is to defend wartime incarcerations in legal terminology, since none
of us here is a specialist in international wartime legalese.

     Dave!



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  Re: left-leaning pantywaists in Britain (Re: So are they prisoners of war or what?)
 
(...) is alleged to have (...) alleged to have been (...) Indeed. But there are UK "detainees" in Cuba too. Could these guys not have committed treason against the UK? Could they not go on trial in the UK with real charges against them? (...) One (...) (23 years ago, 4-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: left-leaning pantywaists in Britain (Re: So are they prisoners of war or what?)
 
(...) And totally misses the point, though the first one about standards of justice stares it in the face and still misses it. The point is whether they are being treated better or worse than American citizens accused of similar crimes would be (I (...) (23 years ago, 4-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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