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I wonder how many people here have read Aldous Huxley's *Brave New World*. Many of the recent debates echo of things within this book: population control, sexual experimentation by young children, individual rights, ...and so on. While I am not (...) (23 years ago, 21-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It seems kind of contradictory to advocate tight control on the bodily functions of others and yet claim to value individual rights. Chris (23 years ago, 21-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It's just part of the formula suggested in the book. If intercourse has no meaning other than pleasure, then it becomes a function that fits smoothly into the utopia. Remove all emotional ties to copulations at the earliest age possible and (...) (23 years ago, 21-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Nope, not me. American, was he? (...) Personally, I think this one does some good. There's serious discussion about this in the UK now, to replace the firearms of our armed police units. So long as this is still the exception rather than (...) (23 years ago, 21-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) 45 seconds of Googling gave: (URL) in the UK, went to Eton and Oxford. Wrote BNW in 1931. Moved to the US in 1937. So, no, sorry, not American. BNW is no longer required reading in English schools? It's still a fresh and interesting read (and (...) (23 years ago, 22-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Cool. While utterly disagreeing with me, you inadvertantly proved a point that I really had no idea how to make... ...foreigners ought to stay out of other nation's buisness unless they happen to be experts. I whole-heartedly agree that I have no (...) (23 years ago, 22-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Kirby, It sounds from this and a subsequent response that you might be opposed to clone-related research. That's not so is it? What's to be against? Chris (23 years ago, 22-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hmm. We all send 'peace keeping' forces around the world, but they usually have some degree of domestic interest involved. I was impressed with Clinton's involvement in the middle east, and his involvement in Northern Ireland (though not to (...) (23 years ago, 22-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) He didn't appear to have any particularly heartfelt national allegiance from that bio. Now, I'm fairly sure I know what you mean by 'Googling', but somehow the expression still worries me. :-)* (...) I might well do. There wasn't much (...) (23 years ago, 22-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It does. I find it amusing when people react that way. (...) I think it depends on what you mean by 'well.' Our conservatives have become much more concerned with the domestic agenda than in the recent past. Bush mirrors that concern. I think (...) (23 years ago, 22-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I understand some of the benefits that cloning technology could have. Unfortunately, I'm a bit leary (paranoid? Biased?) that the technology seems to be nearing success at the same time that population control is becoming a serious issue...the (...) (23 years ago, 22-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) uh...that's not what I meant. Though reading my post again, I see how you were mislead (unless of course you knew what I really and decided to simply play with me a bit). Let's see...actually, never mind. I was sort of trying to make a point (...) (23 years ago, 22-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Unfortunately, there isn't any way we can live in "harmony" with mother nature. If we really wanted to preserve Earth, then we'd have to give up our current lifestyles. Yup, no more SUV's, no more fertilizer (nitrogen), no more nuclear powerplants, (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm willing to go with "really funny". But since I've had the "privilege" of riding in a taxi driven by a Cockney I know that for the accent to be even close to correct it has to be completely unintelligible to an American. (...) It's a (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well I agree that we ought not to single out Cuba for special treatment (perhaps Nike should try to set up some factories there so that they can get the same deal China does???) but I'm not so sure I'm convinced that things are "happily (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mladen Pejic writes: <snip description of classic resource based "limits to growth" problem) (...) Indeed. (...) Indeed. Open the bottle (to use your metaphor). Or put some of your eggs in other baskets ( to use RAH's). (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:GGwMGp.62J@lugnet.com... (...) sustaining (...) I believe space colonization will grow because of the private sector, not because of something a government does. After doing a little (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You are sure of this...why? (...) kicked (...) Animls don't have more rights than people. However, people are just beginning to take our role as stewards of this planet seriously. It would have been better if they could have identified the (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<snip> (...) That story reminds me of an old "Loony Toon" years ago with Bugs Bunny. A highway was being built and his hole was in it's path. After all was said and done (with Bugs' gorilla tactics) the highway went through. It just went around his (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hm, maybe because we are successfully raising bald eagles and releasing them to the wild? (...) Tell that to the treehuggers that are snarling up the courts to delay projects left and right. (...) Moving ONE eagle != wiping out the species. (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Unless humanity was transplanted on Earth rather than evolving naturally, or was created by a divine entity, then yes, there is a way to live in harmony with the environment. (...) SUV's only need a clean fuel source, not really a big deal (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) True, but then again I'd like to see how it fared if all the trade embargoes were lifted. It's not like Cuba has any effect on US oil production or anything. Just think, you'd all be able to get those big chunky cigars cheaper, without having (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And up until then, you assumed this trait was limited to cabbies in NYC? (Hey - I'm only taking the line I've been fed here). P.S. to everyone else - not everyone in the UK has a cockney accent either. (...) Oh, right. We group geography and (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Via Canada, but ya. I won't smoke them, though, too iffy on how they were made and whose pockets get lined from the sales. (23 years ago, 24-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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