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(...) Let's keep you thinking that way, shall we? (...) I like how you say I failed in my stated purpose, but then fail to explain why. Not that it's any real surprise. (...) If you say so. (...) No, not at all. When I take a side I try to argue and (...) (24 years ago, 7-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Oops, in case anyone caught it I sorta used the f word in my last post, I didn't mean to do that, I have since applied a filter in my Lugnet spell checker which will alert me to it if it happens again. Again I apologize to anyone who has been (...) (24 years ago, 7-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) More sophistries. And yes, I can say it (there it is above). Not only that, I'm right. (...) You failed in your stated purpose. It seems you aren't as clever as you like to think you are. (...) Sometimes known as jerking people around. What's (...) (24 years ago, 7-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not at all. An entire text that I have written may represent the truth of what I believe, however when things are taken out of context, they do not represent the truth of what I believe. Therefore as a whole it is true, but not when broken (...) (24 years ago, 7-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oh really, how so? (...) Oh, and whose logistic standards would those be? I'm partial to Copi and Cohen's work myself. You do realize that logic isn't exactly something written in stone, right son? (...) Ahh but that's putting it into your (...) (24 years ago, 7-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No I'm really not son, I broke it down to pure logic. I can even break it down further into truth tables, but I doubt you even know what those are so I won't bother. (...) Actually that isn't what he asked me. Don't you know what a premise is? (...) (24 years ago, 7-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ahh, but that's only your interpretation of it, remember, I'm an experienced social engineer. Given that you really can't say what I really mean or think. That's not to say I'm trying to manipulate anybody, it just means I'm trying to control (...) (24 years ago, 7-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I doubt that the Sumerians felt the water rising, although such an event would have disrupted trade balances and relationships. There also would have been a dramatic exodus of refugees, many of them "spilling" into Sumeria. Since a fertile (...) (24 years ago, 6-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) D'oh! Even as I posted my earlier message I was thinking about this. There are, of course, numerous submerged archaeological sites in the shallows and not-so-shallows of the Mediterranean. I'll still stand by my assertion that the flooding of (...) (24 years ago, 6-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) There's also evidence that the filling of the Mediterranean was witnessed as well. An event that large most likely was felt in Sumer, probably by the entire Fertile Crescent. Cheers, - jsproat (24 years ago, 6-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I've seen bits about that on Good Morning America and now and then on CNN, but I'm not up on the latest info. What I recall is that the water flow into the Black Sea exceeded the rate over Niagara falls for a period (if I remember correctly) (...) (24 years ago, 6-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Dang, I answered this one in your email. Everyone will have to be mystified as to my response. :-( Oh, I'll cover the very last point again because it's quick: the Sumerians, Egyptian, and Indians all developed their cultures along a major (...) (24 years ago, 6-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Both Nova and National Geographic have recently done pieces on new findings that suggest a catastrophic flood of the Black Sea did indeed occur x thousands of years ago. I can't really remember the details, but I believe that the event is (...) (24 years ago, 6-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The point is that you attempt to invalidate science on one hand, but it's suddenly valid when it serves your purpose. You do this very thing below. (...) The last willfully misconstrue evidence, take it out of context, ignore what is (...) (24 years ago, 6-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Struggle and death has indeed always been present. Let's for a moment assume that the literal interpretation is true. God created man on the 6th day. He created all of the other animals prior to that. I don't know if you're going to deny the (...) (24 years ago, 6-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) BZZT, wrong. Thanks for playing, though. If you want to use logic terminology to restate my challange, please do it correctly. Statement: A is true if and only if all occurances of B are true. Statement: B is false. Reconcile away. (...) (...) (24 years ago, 6-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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James Simpson: (...) James, If God used evolution to create (and an integral part of evolution is struggle and death) then God created by using death. In Romans 5:12, God said that death entered the world as a result of sin. Did God create sin so (...) (24 years ago, 6-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is an example of what I mentioned earlier about Creationists altering fact to fit their belief system (which should not be dignified with the term theory or hypothesis). (...) If by "Indians" you're referring to Native Americans, then (...) (24 years ago, 6-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Bruce Schlickbernd: (...) But that can be reconciled with 6,000 years. When one examines the early Chinese dynasties, one can find that precisely documented dynasties only go back as far as about 2000 B.C. The first true Chinese dynasty was started (...) (24 years ago, 6-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) There no reason to say this except to let him know that you don't really believe he's right and your wrong, i.e. you *do* have a problem letting him believe you're wrong and he's right. Bruce (24 years ago, 6-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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