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Re: Robert gets to invalidate logic (was Re: Science and beliefs (was Re: Alien races))
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Sat, 7 Apr 2001 02:35:57 GMT
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On Sat, 7 Apr 2001 02:28:56 GMT, "Bruce Schlickbernd"
<corsair@schlickbernd.org> wrote:
> > > > Yeah, you're
> > > > right, I'm wrong. That's what you're really looking for isn't it
> > > > James? No need to feel ashamed if it is, I have no problems in
> > > > letting you believe I'm wrong and you're right.
> > > There no reason to say this except to let him know that you don't really
> > > believe he's right and your wrong, i.e. you *do* have a problem letting him
> > > believe you're wrong and he's right.
> > >
> > > Bruce
> > Ahh, but that's only your interpretation of it, remember, I'm an
> > experienced social engineer. Given that you really can't say what I
> > really mean or think.
> More sophistries. And yes, I can say it (there it is above). Not only
> that, I'm right.
Let's keep you thinking that way, shall we?
> > That's not to say I'm trying to manipulate
> > anybody, it just means I'm trying to control the way the debate
> > unfolds.
> You failed in your stated purpose. It seems you aren't as clever as you like
> to think you are.
I like how you say I failed in my stated purpose, but then fail to
explain why. Not that it's any real surprise.
> > In these debates I'm often times looking for specific
> > emotions and feelings, that way I can better understand my opponents
> > position.
> Sometimes known as jerking people around. What's the point when you are
> being so transparent about it? The only person you are fooling is yourself.
If you say so.
> > As I said before, I'm a Nihilist, so I don't really have an
> > absolute opinion on anything, in either case. I could just as well be
> > arguing the other side of the issue tomorrow, and I probably will.
> So you'll be admitting that you were being a fraud tomorrow? Oh, how
> condescending of you. :-)
>
> Bruce
No, not at all. When I take a side I try to argue and debate it as if
I do truly believe in it. I'm not a fraud, I just don't have a set of
beliefs that are written in stone. I try to redefine my beliefs and
understanding through debating. However the best way I've found to do
that is to argue against the side I'm actually in agreement with.
Robert
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